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In with a bullet (forensic bullet-tagging technology)
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| 8/1/08
Posted on 08/07/2008 10:14:57 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
I have a huge supply of lead and molds.......
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:21:03 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
(" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
To: LibWhacker
Just something to raise the cost of ammunition. I’m sure there’s a dozen ways of defeating this if someone wants too.
It would probably also lead to increased use of revolvers by criminals, so they don’t leave the casing behind.
Final note - i thought they banned guns in England. That would mean there is no more gun crime, right?
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:26:04 AM PDT
by
driftdiver
(No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
To: driftdiver
BAE is a huge defense contractor in the US. No doubt they have LE contracts, too.
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:27:09 AM PDT
by
IGOTMINE
(1911s FOREVER!)
To: LibWhacker
1. The crime has already been committed before you can get a DNA sample from a bullet or shell casing.
2. Someone has everyone in the world's DNA? Should be easy to find the perp from the DNA.
3.Myself, I'd just buy a box of latex gloves at wal mart for $3 before I touch any of the ammo.
The UK is far worse than the usa for not punishing criminals. The only one's this would hurt are the honest gun owners. “Gun Control is not about guns or crime control.”
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:30:44 AM PDT
by
Big Mack
(I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain TO EAT VEGETABLES!)
To: LibWhacker
Once you have fired thousands of rounds...many reloaded from brass off the range floor...this is a totally useless exercise. It would only find the most naive individual firing brand new factory ammo from a completely clean firearm. Use of revolvers to retain the brass, gloves to prevent contact between skin and cartridges/firearm will completely defeat this approach. There is also the matter of discerning the difference between who loaded the gun and who fired the gun. Frankly, it's just another solution in search of a problem. A worthless technology (like microstamping) that will only gain traction if mandated by the government. There is no market demand for it.
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:33:01 AM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: driftdiver
“Final note - i thought they banned guns in England. That would mean there is no more gun crime, right?”
They’re just such a nice bunch of fart smellers, I mean Smart Fellers, that they want to help US with OUR “problems”.
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:37:49 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
To: Big Mack
OR... “Gun Control is about CONTROL, but it is not about guns”.
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:39:29 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: LibWhacker
Can I point out that making a cartridge case abrasive enough to remove skin cells will make it a wee bit difficult to eject, let alone draw and form? But, when did the Brit police show any smarts, since 1950?
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:43:47 AM PDT
by
jonascord
(Hurray! for the Bonny Blue Flag that bears the Single Star!)
To: LibWhacker
“A new bullet-tagging technology being developed in the UK could give forensic teams a robust new tool in the fight against gun crime.”
Translation:
A new impediment to legitimate gun owners has been devised by hoplophobic researchers in the anti-gun Kingdom of Britain.
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:53:51 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
To: Vaquero
They’ll want to tag those too.
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posted on
08/07/2008 10:54:14 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
"The tags, which measure 30 microns in diameter, are applied to gun cartridges by being embedded in cartridge coatings made from polylactic acid, sucrose ester and tetrahydrofuran. They then attach themselves to the hands or gloves of anyone handling the cartridge and are said to be very difficult to wash off." More gun-controller sci-fi fantasy. Not to mention the cost.
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posted on
08/07/2008 11:07:00 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
To: Joe Brower
Not to mention the cost.That's the point.
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posted on
08/07/2008 11:18:56 AM PDT
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: Myrddin
"...this is a totally useless exercise." It's difficult to argue with that. If I may offer another solution to the problem.
Perhaps, we could pass another law. We could simply request the criminal leave a note at the scene of the crime just like when you park to close to my new car and accidentally put another ding in the side of the door.
Simple, cost effective and except for the criminal should not offend anyone.
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posted on
08/07/2008 11:20:25 AM PDT
by
An Old Man
("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
To: Vaquero
"I have a huge supply of lead and molds....... It will take me ages to get through my supply of bullets before I have to resort to that... :o)
To: LibWhacker
Surgical gloves and throw them away later. Don’t want to do that? Then load your own and make your own bullets, lead and molds are common. In a country where owning a gun is against the law but still relatively easy to obtain why do they think someone couldn’t get ammo that was free of this stuff one way or another? This will catch zero criminals in my opinion and is just another idiotic sop to the gun grabbers.
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posted on
08/07/2008 11:35:08 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: LibWhacker
So if you handle lots and lots and lots of cartridges the chances of them finding a matche with the crime bullet would be slim.
To: driftdiver
The coatings are on the bullets themselves. If you touch the bullet, a tiny bit of skin cells well be left behind on it. As long as it doesn’t cost more (yea, right) or affect accuracy, or cause abnormal bore wear, who cares?
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posted on
08/07/2008 11:52:44 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: LibWhacker
There may also be scope to apply them in other fields, such as knife crime, in future.While it may be difficult to remove this stuff from a box of bullets, give me half an hour and I'll find a chemical that will take it off a knife like water off a duck's back.
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posted on
08/07/2008 11:55:50 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
‘The coatings are on the bullets themselves. If you touch the bullet, a tiny bit of skin cells well be left behind on it. As long as it doesnt cost more (yea, right) or affect accuracy, or cause abnormal bore wear, who cares?”
Who cares? Its a stupid idea whose sole purpose is to increase the cost of ammunition for law abiding gun owners.
The story says it will be done in batches. We’re supposed to think its like DNA but its not.
Second, rubber gloves are really really cheap.
Why stop with this? Why not just take a DNA sample from everyone and put them in jail for thinking bad thoughts.
The UK is such a diabolical mess that I would not use them for an example of anything positive.
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posted on
08/07/2008 12:07:26 PM PDT
by
driftdiver
(No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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