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More of the Same: My Two Cents on Lawless Law Enforcement
Spare Change | August 8, 2008 | David J. Aland

Posted on 08/09/2008 9:40:03 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

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1 posted on 08/09/2008 9:40:03 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Serve and protect=raise money and exercise ego


2 posted on 08/09/2008 9:44:05 PM PDT by freeplancer
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Reminds me of an old SNL skit where the police (Akroyd/Belushi) bust into an apartment with guns drawn and proceed to throw two marijuana smoking women out the window, and then solemnly proclaim “another drug related homicide”.


3 posted on 08/09/2008 9:46:27 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Did you see this one, Natty?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2053650/posts


4 posted on 08/09/2008 9:46:47 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Ever since the so-called War On Drugs (WOD) — actually the War On The Bill of Rights — began, our civilian cops have been undergoing MILITARY training. The “authorities” gentle it down with the prefix “Para” but those “dynamic entry” teams would be more at home in Baghdad than Boston. (Well, unless they hit John Kerry’s front door at 3 am, Boston might not be a good example.) Watch “Dallas SWAT” for a dose of how it works.

I have long thought that that sort of activity within the ranks of otherwise “civilian” law enforcement was a push by those with an agenda to bypass posse comitatus for purposes BEYOND the WOD and other currently criminal behavior.

That the mass of that shrinking minority – the American citizen (thank you Mr. Open Borders Bush!) – has NOT objected to this erosion of personal liberty does NOT bode well for the future of freedom here.

I wonder what sort of body count of innocent grandmothers and others it will take before folks begin to grasp that they might be more at risk from the cops than the criminals and bring the situation back under control?

My Uncle Bob (R.I.P.) would be horrified.

My Uncle Bob was a 30 year veteran of a police force in suburban Cleveland. He was best man at my wedding 45 years ago. He served in an era when MOST cops embodied the now frequently hollow motto emblazoned on police units all over this country: “TO PROTECT AND SERVE.”

The last 10 years of his career were spent as the chief Juvenile Detective in his department. When he died, a number of the young men whose lives he had touched years before came forward to tell how his timely and sometimes tough-love intervention turned them around.

I know that many officers STILL try to live that creed today. I also know that there are officers out there who, despite the rulings by the Supremes that they have no obligation to specific, individual citizens (see Warren v. DC for some fascinating and frightening reading on that), would stand between one of us and a bullet – and have.

Having said that, I must also lament that SOME cops are “cowboys.” Too many are simply power driven megalomaniacs who would have dropped on the OTHER side of the law had their lives drifted a degree or two off the course they did take.

I believe this to be especially true of far too many federal law enforcement types who have allowed their egos and hubris to become as bloated as the bureaucratic federal behemoth they serve. (See footnote below). Their mandate is no longer to “…protect and serve” the citizens who pay their salaries: It is to crush any meaningful resistance to a growing body of procedures, regulations and policies – too frequently enforced under severely tortured interpretations of the underlying legislative enactments (if any) – and often put in place by executive fiat. The massively abused SEIZURE statutes – laws the author of which now seeks to RESCIND! — spring to mind.

And one cannot but help to wonder how the clear to anyone with half a brain criminality of the Clintons – and their subsequent avoidance of any penalty – has played into the problem? There now seems to be a bright line between the easy, highly flexible, slap-on-the-wrist law for the rich and powerful and the rigidly enforced law against even the tiniest victimless “crimes” committed by those of us further down the food chain. Does anyone in his right mind believe THAT will NOT engender added disrespect for ALL law?

Could those things be a large part of the problem in some of the highly disturbing – and DEADLY (on BOTH sides) – confrontations we have witnessed over the past decade or so? Gordon Kahl, Ruby Ridge, OK City, Waco, Beck… This list WILL lengthen and we’d all better pray that WE will be spared.

Roman historian Tacitus warned that one could tell the level of corruption in a society by the NUMBER of its laws. Anyone doubt the level of corruption here?

Am I the only one who thinks we’re long overdue a serious review of the NUMBERS of laws under which we are now forced to exist – and which are increasingly used not to assure our safety or well-being, but to COMMAND AND CONTROL us and KEEP US IN LINE.

Only the most tyrannical and power-crazed members of law enforcement could possibly object to that.

The modern counterparts of my uncle would not object.

It is THEY, after all, who are most likely to catch that bullet – probably fired by someone who has symbolically screamed to himself “I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE” — referred to earlier when they sally forth to serve that flimsy warrant or make that bogus arrest.

FOOTNOTE:
At a cocktail party back in the late 80’s, I struck up a chat with a fellow — his name was Joe M. — whom I’d met on one or two previous events. After my first encounter, Joe’s neighbor and my boss at the time told me that Joe was an alcoholic who had just retired from 25 years with the IRS. Needless to say, I was guarded in expressing my political views to Joe as the IRS had helped my dad into an early grave in 1977 — at age 59 over an estate matter. Joe was pretty deep into his cups at the function in question and began telling IRS “war stories.” Most had to do with clear cases of criminal conduct by not very nice people. Joe — who was a few years short of 60 — sounded to me like someone who enjoyed helping getting really bad people off the street and I asked why he’d retired early. He told me that what he called “the service” had changed for the worse. Then I asked him about the new people coming in. He shook his head, actually teared up and said that many of them were “really bad.” I pressed. “Really bad” meant incompetent? “No — DANGEROUS,” he responded “they like to hurt people.”

It was then that I think I understood why Joe drank.


5 posted on 08/09/2008 9:58:55 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

The police have largely lost the minorities and lower socioeconomic classes. Now they’re in the process of driving away the white middle class, too. And they have only themselves to blame. Unfortunately, the good cops will suffer for the actions of their bad apple brethren. When they walk into a diner, the conversation stops and everyone turns away—or worse, when they’re in a life or death jam on some dark night and no citizen stops to help or call 911—they need only look to incidents such as this for the reason why.


6 posted on 08/09/2008 9:59:12 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
When they write the ephitat on America the drug warriors will cited as those that destroyed this once great republic.

Hopefully God will not have mercy on their souls.
7 posted on 08/09/2008 10:05:22 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

I think the term is “totalitarian anarchy”.


8 posted on 08/09/2008 10:11:04 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat

If LE were to knock on my door..I’d let them in. I have nothing to hide.

I have an acquaitance who nearly went apoplectic during the Waco event.

His shouted comment to me: You don’t know what it is like to have the Feds surrounding you.

My comment to him: I guess you are right.


9 posted on 08/09/2008 10:35:03 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Dick Bachert

One of the saddest JBT stories recently was the murder of a very old woman defending her home from an Atlanta police SWAT team. The police lied in a deposition to a judge, got a search warrant, decided to assault the place (if you’ve got a SWAT team, you might as well use it they reason) and went in with authomatic weapons. The old lady tried to defend herself and was shot dead by the JBTs. They then realized she wasn’t a drug dealer, so they planted some dope on her. They then (that is to say AFTER they murdered the woman) tried to intimidate one of their informants to say he saw drugs being sold out of the house. The “informant” actually told the truth and the cops are not looking too good.


10 posted on 08/09/2008 11:00:54 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: supercat

The unintended (perhaps intended) consequence of liberalism. The guilty go unpunished by liberal prosecutors and judges. This breeds lawlessness. Unfortunately the most favored solution is a draconian, authoritarian, crackdown. With wise leadership this can be accomplished somewhat justly. Unfortunately wise leadership is selected by a wise electorate. P.G. County votes 80% Democrat. C.f. Shakespeare’s “Measure for Measure.”


11 posted on 08/09/2008 11:04:50 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: berdie
If LE were to knock on my door..I’d let them in. I have nothing to hide.

And when they don't knock, violate the warrant, shoot your dogs, and then leave you with your bloody mess, I suppose you are going to thank them as they leave?

12 posted on 08/09/2008 11:13:27 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: ALPAPilot

Before you start blaming liberalism for this, was not Reagan the one who started this b.s. WOD?

War on the Bill of Rights is what he should have called it.


13 posted on 08/09/2008 11:18:51 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: OldCorps

If this is the story that I’m thinking of, a couple of the cops pleaded to a manslaughter charges and received jail time. I think she actually nailed a couple of them with a .38 before she died.


14 posted on 08/09/2008 11:32:20 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Maryland has severe gun control laws. I suspect the police have little to fear from the average citizen. The Founders understood this very well.


15 posted on 08/10/2008 12:58:04 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: freeplancer

To punish and oppress.


16 posted on 08/10/2008 4:20:20 AM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Dick Bachert

“My Uncle Bob was a 30 year veteran of a police force in suburban Cleveland”

Then your Uncle Bob was a jackbooted thug, a cog of the machine, serving only to raise money and exercise his ego, a man whose death in the line of duty would probably have been “deserved” and “come-uppance” rather than tragic if it had gone down that way.

At least, according to the arbiters of righteousness on FR.

It’s threads like these (not the subject - the subject is something for which heads should roll) that make me realize that sometimes the stereotypes of this place have a ring of truth.


17 posted on 08/10/2008 4:39:56 AM PDT by Sandreckoner
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
and now they are looking for another reason to kick in doors

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/07/22/trying_to_outlaw_an_herbal_high/

18 posted on 08/10/2008 4:54:56 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: berdie

I hate to post this, but I have to.

I have a very close family member who is a former police officer. In fact, he led a narcotics task force.

In one of their no knock raids they knew nobody in the house was involved in the drug trade, they knew there was nothing drug related in the house. But they were able to get a warrant and they exercised it solely to intimidate the family of a drug dealer. Their own testimony in the case confirms all of this.

During the raid they fired through the walls in to a room they knew to have innocent women and children, and shot a dog that was doing nothing but lying there. Nobody in the house made an aggressive mood during the raid. Honestly, the entire event sounded more like a home invasion than anything you’d attribute to law enforcement.

Even after he left the task force, due to even more misconduct, there were repeated cases of abuse and misconduct by members of the team, with two of them currently serving time for criminal behavior.

It pains me to bring this up because this is a person I love dearly and, honestly, for years held in very high esteem because of his accomplishments as a law enforcement officer. But after this event, and conversations with many others who are very close to him, I realize that something about the power that goes along with the “War on Drugs” brings to many officers has the ability to bring about serious changes in an individual, and there are far too many people being given power they just can’t handle.

As strange as it is to say, I wish I could believe this was an isolated event, even though it would mean that someone I love was uniquely morally deficient. But there are enough stories of similar raids, coming from all over the country, that I truly believe the War on Drugs is reaching the point where it proves the axiom “absolute power corrupts absolutely”.


19 posted on 08/10/2008 7:49:37 AM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Sandreckoner

I agree that some of those who post here (and they MAY be DU moles!) go off the scale of logic and reason.

Having said that, stories such as this one from Maryland even push ME to the edge.

There is NO excuse for this sort of behavior by “law enforcement” in an ostensibly free nation. The WOD has been a huge national error and has promoted these sorts of intolerable excesses.

Even Newt has remarked that the dough — and the freedoms —we have thrown at the WOD would be far better spent on treatment. Now that the WOD has become a lucrative national industry with a huge constituency, that will be difficult or impossible to do.

Perhaps if the DC SWAT boys had invaded the White House during the klintoon maladministration...?


20 posted on 08/10/2008 8:26:17 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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