Posted on 08/10/2008 3:50:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
If you take away the legs it looks like...no, nevermind.
Evolution illustrates this truth about the world God placed us in: adaptation leads to survival.Ever heard of memetics?The last 4,000 years has shown us the power and success of the Judeo-Christian ethic. Its commands are like established laws of physics. To wit, if you think you can get from the third floor to the sidewalk by jumping, you can, but the law of gravity ensures you pay a penalty. To wit, if we think we can indulge in immoral sexual values we can, but we pay a penalty. If we think we can indulge in envy and lust and avariciousness we can, but our moral fabric pays an ugly penalty, just like the guy who jumps in water gets wet.
From it we've taken the combined respect and responsibility ethic that has enabled free enterprise and Western Civilization. Clearly when humans adapt their behavior to Judeo-Christian teachings, they thrive. When they don't, they flounder.
To me, evolution IS intelligent design, and the bible is our Divine guide to survival.
The coming of the Church age? That was a easy one.
Evolution is ID. That is the truth.
It’s not a theory. It’s a fact.
Evolution is ID. That is the truth.It depends on what you mean by intelligence. The current scientific consensus is that intelligent and adaptive behavior come out of almost any self-organizing system(the game of life, dna, mammalian and mollusk brains etc...).
We're living in an interesting period.
I already know that I've opened myself up to a snide remark involving donkey or some incarnation of the word somewhere in the punchline, but I thought this would be the easiest one for you to grasp right off. LOL
Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, daughter of Zion! Shout, daughter of Jerusalem! Look! Your king is coming to you: he is legitimate and victorious, humble and riding on a donkey— on a young donkey, the foal of a female donkey.Here's a good list.Luke 19:35-38 Then they brought it to Jesus, threw their cloaks on the colt, and had Jesus get on it. As he rode along, they spread their cloaks on the road. As he approached the road leading down from the Mount of Olives, the whole crowd of his disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works they had seen: “Blessed is the king who comes in the name of the Lord! Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!”
I didn’t issue a challenge. I merely pointed the way if peradventure there be a seeking heart. If you want to be saved, it’s in front of you. God doesn’t do gymnastics to get you to believe. He gave His only Son; and He made sure there are plenty of prophesies enabling you to pick Him out of the entire sea of humanity. If you chose not to search the prophesies (which in the era of Internet is ridiculously easy to look up), that is on you.
Jer 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
But if you’re truly interested if God even exists, PRAY FIRST. Admit that you don’t know everything and that you need His help to reconcile all of this evolution vs intelligent design stuff. That is CRITICAL! No one comes to Christ without divine intervention.
Then search out the seven circles of the Messiah. That’s a good start.
Grace to you my friend.
Hmmm, mollusk brains, never had those before. I think I’d need some hot sauce first.
The truth is all we have, but we live in an age where the possibility of knowing Truth itself is disbelieved.
Yes, for brute survival in a physical place, a worldy plain.
Religion addresses survival in a spiritual place, an other-worldly plain, not for brute survival, but for eternal thriving. On a physical plane, nothing will thrive as-is for eternity, because it's physical, everchanging, temporary. Yet it operates the same as the eternal in principle, which is adaptation.
Judeo-Christianity is certainly divine in my opinion because only God could create and chronical a behavioral system that leads to eternal thriving on the otherworldly, spiritual plane. I'm not talking about heaven or where we go after we die. I mean that Judeo-Christianity is a proven formula that shows us an adaptation that will hold through any circumstance; there is nothing brute about it. Love, mercy, respect, grace, personal accounting each his own to God, through Jesus alone for Christians -- this works. Child sacrifice, wanton lust, greed, societies built on envy and avariciousness, slavery -- there are many religions and primitive cultures that embrace those things. Hence whole peoples and tribes and languages become extinct, and nations that follow ancient religions are as mired in misery, toil, inequity and turmoil as they were 1,500 years ago.
Fairness is a concept each human understands at birth, yet fairness does not exist on the physical plane. Never has, never will. That alone is proof to me of our divine link to God. He made us in His image. How otherwise would we universally perceive something that doesn't exist in our "real" world?
Clearly, Judeo-Christianity is our path to survival on a different plain. I look at evolution on our worldly plane. and take a very decided lesson from it with regard to our survival on the next plane. Adapt or perish.
Assuming you are using ID alone, you would have to use your knowledge of the created universe and work your way back to Him from that knowledge. The God who is most consistent with His creation wins. Of course you must also assume that this God does not want to hide Himself from His creation, so in fact then He has revealed Himself in some way that would be obvious to anyone who is looking for Him.
The Bible certainly preaches against attacking the Bible. That’s a doctrine.
—>Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
—>Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Who created science? If God did, then doesn’t it follow that He is “supernatural” (above natural law)? Isn’t that the essence of the biblical doctrine of being “eternal”, not created; therefore not subject to natural law?
If then eternal, is it possible that He chose to create an earth that is MATURE (just like Adam); so that his prize creation would have to RELY on His word to accurately estimate the age of the earth by counting back the generations since Adam (i.e., about 6,000 years)?
God recorded creation in Genesis 1-2. If God lied in the first two chapters of His Word (He promised his Word would have no corruption), what else did He lie about? Salvation? Atonement? Your need for a Saviour to personally pay for your sins because you can’t? His promise to remove your sin as far as the east is from the west? His promise of judgment for those who reject Him?
Pro 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
As Christians, we live and die on the Bible, which is God’s truth. God created in six days. That excludes macro evolution. And so does the Cambrian explosion....
Grace to you.
I see. Your beliefs are sacrosanct; those of all others are suspect. How nice!
The Bible isn't a science book; trying to use it as such is actually misusing the Word of God. A day is a thousand years, and a thousand years is but a day.
So you're telling me God created the laws of the universe - which operate in a very fixed, specific way - then created a massive amount of fraudulent evidence to confuse us about how He created things?
Biblically, evolution isn't a problem. The Bible doesn't expound on the details of how - it deals with the why and whom.
Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, daughter of Zion! Shout, daughter of Jerusalem! Look! Your king is coming to you: he is legitimate and victorious, humble and riding on a donkey— on a young donkey, the foal of a female donkey.
Wow, I am stunned. Jesus actually rode a young donkey? What about the victorious part, don't you think that was important, too? Jesus was not victorious. I guess that prophecy as a false one.
That was the best prophecy and fulfilment you had? I can't say it surprised me.
You claimed to have 300 simple prophecies fulfilled by Jesus Christ. I merely asked for your best, clearest, prophecy and your response is to pray about it? LOL
And then there is this part: "he is legitimate" - well, he wasn't the son of Joseph, was he?
So, there are four claims in the prophecy:
That was the very best prophecy that Force of Truth could find and it was a false one. Could it be that there isn't a single true and accurate prophecy in the entire Bible? I haven't found any.
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