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Russia readying 9000 extra troops
AFP via The Herald Sun ^ | August 11, 2008

Posted on 08/11/2008 12:41:25 AM PDT by Schnucki

RUSSIA is preparing to deploy 9000 troops to bolster its forces inside the separatist Georgian region of Abkhazia, reports say.

"The group is based on a subdivision of paratroopers. It consists of more than 9,000 troops and more than 350 armoured vehicles,'' Alexander Novitsky, a spokesman for Russia's peacekeeping forces in Abkhazia, was quoted by Interfax news agency as saying.

"The strengthening of the peacekeeping force is aimed at ruling out a repetition of the situation Russian peacekeepers faced in Tskhinvali," Mr Novitsky was quoted as saying.

Tskhinvali is the capital of South Ossetia, another breakaway region of Georgia where Russian forces are now in control after a failed military operation by Georgia to re-assert government control.

"Our troops have to defend ... civilians and avert a humanitarian catastrophe," he said.

A 1994 ceasefire agreement following a war in which Georgian troops were forced out of Abkhazia allows Russia to have 3000 peacekeepers there, although it has deployed only about 2500 until recently.

Photographers and cameramen in Abkhazia say that for the past two nights, Russian cargo planes have been flying troops and armour into the Black Sea territory which, like South Ossetia, has often said it wants to be part of Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: caucasus; evilempire; geopolitics; georgia; oil; russia; southossetia
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1 posted on 08/11/2008 12:41:26 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

as hard as it may sound but maybe it´s time for Saakashvili to wave the white flag. he gambled on the wrong horse (EU and US) and he lost. i don´t think it´s worth more deaths because georgia has no chance to win this on their own.
this stats are from a bbc report so i can not say if they are 100% true but it clearly shows that georgia has not a single chance against russian military.

GEORGIA
Total personnel: 26,900
Main battle tanks (T-72): 82
Armoured personnel carriers: 139
Combat aircraft (Su-25): Seven
Heavy artillery pieces (including Grad rocket launchers): 95

RUSSIA
Total personnel: 641,000
Main battle tanks (various): 6,717
Armoured personnel carriers: 6,388
Combat aircraft (various): 1,206
Heavy artillery pieces (various): 7,550
Source: Jane’s Sentinel Country Risk Assessments


2 posted on 08/11/2008 12:48:52 AM PDT by austrian
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To: austrian

Combat aircraft (Su-25): Seven==

Not any more. Now is zero. They all were shot down or destroyed on the ground during last week.


3 posted on 08/11/2008 12:54:52 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: austrian

as hard as it may sound but maybe it´s time for Saakashvili to wave the white flag. ==

Saakashvilli won’t do that. He knows he will be tried and hunged for his “maasacre in Tskhinval” crime.

Russian will not stop until arrest him.


4 posted on 08/11/2008 12:56:34 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: RusIvan

i´m shure that there are countries out there which would grant him asylum if this would end this conflict. but a solution has to be found soon or many more innocent people will die for “nothing” in the future.


5 posted on 08/11/2008 1:03:27 AM PDT by austrian
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To: RusIvan
You can lie to yourself as much as you want but the corrupted Russians are the ones in the wrong. Russia is just about as corrupted and evil as they were before their ego was hurt in the collapse of the Soviet Union.
6 posted on 08/11/2008 1:05:35 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (John McCain 2008!)
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To: RusIvan

Except Saakashvilli claims that it was the S. Ossetians that continued to provoke Georgia into an attack by repeatedly launching rocket artillery from Tshkhivali.

It makes no sense otherwise why he would risk taking on Russia.

Convenient that the Russians had the 58th Army already mobilized, deployed and ready to go at the beginning of the Georgian attack, wouldn’t you say?

This is all about Russian control of Caspian oil. Putin could care less about fake Russian citizens or the civilian casualties he’s inflicting then blaming it on the Georgians.


7 posted on 08/11/2008 1:06:42 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (A kid at McDonalds has more real-world work experience than Barack Hussein.)
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Except Saakashvilli claims that it was the S. Ossetians that continued to provoke Georgia into an attack by repeatedly launching rocket artillery from Tshkhivali.

It makes no sense otherwise why he would risk taking on Russia.

Convenient that the Russians had the 58th Army already mobilized, deployed and ready to go at the beginning of the Georgian attack, wouldn’t you say?==

Yes there were shooting to each other. Osetians shot on Georgians and Georgians shot on Tskhinval form hieghts around of city.

Saakashvilli tells that Osetians provoked him? Surely:) But he was so stupid that gave in. Hence I conclude he is the political leader as gullible as child. Do you believe it? I do not.

Nevertheless his troops committed the massacre in Tskhinval on Aug 08. So he is responsible of it as the person who gave teh order to attack. About 2000 died majority of them Russian citizens. Russia won’t allow to massacre her citizens. Gergia and it spresident will pay for it. Dearly.

I’m very very angry now and the almost all of Russians. So I’m personally for hung Saakashvilli as war criminal like Saddam Hussein.


8 posted on 08/11/2008 1:21:19 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: RusIvan
Russia is the one committing war crimes just like they have done throughout their history. They are just as pathetic as they were in the days of the Soviet Union.
9 posted on 08/11/2008 1:25:22 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (John McCain 2008!)
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Russia is the one committing war crimes just like they have done throughout their history. They are just as pathetic as they were in the days of the Soviet Union. ==

In those days the general secretary of CPSU was ethnic GEORGIAN. Name is Josef Dzhugasvilli (Stalin). So it was georgians who committed crimes of Soviet Union.


10 posted on 08/11/2008 1:32:33 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Convenient that the Russians had the 58th Army already mobilized, deployed and ready to go at the beginning of the Georgian attack, wouldn’t you say?==

58 Army is the “full allert army”. It is like 101 airborn division. This army always ready to fight. FYI third or so of Russian army is full alert troops.


11 posted on 08/11/2008 1:36:23 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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Thanks for sharing any insight. I hate to rely on the media for information. Let's hope this end soon before it escalates into a real nightmare.
12 posted on 08/11/2008 1:39:41 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

As I see it, the Georgians started this show, and whether or not they were provoked, flattening a city full of civilians with rocket artillery, killing 2000 people, wasnt the way to react to that provocation.

This, coupled with the fact that they killed Russian troops in this attack, is, IMO more than enough provocation, IMO, for the Russians to completely flatten Georgia, going by their past record.

Im surprised theyve been so nice, so far.

What really gets my goat, is that after doing all this, this Sakashvili runs to the US, and appears on TV demanding the US to expend its men and materiel in an unncessary war, brought on by his own rashness.

The other thing I dont understand is, why does he appear on TV with an EU flag in the background. Georgia is no member of the EU- is Sakashvili childish enough to imagine that he can escape the Bear by pretending hes an EU member?


13 posted on 08/11/2008 2:08:27 AM PDT by ketelone
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14 posted on 08/11/2008 2:15:26 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: RusIvan
In those days the general secretary of CPSU was ethnic GEORGIAN. Name is Josef Dzhugasvilli (Stalin). So it was georgians who committed crimes of Soviet Union.

BS. This is your last (and weak) defense. Just shows how short of arguments the Putin-Poots here are. Stalin was partly Ossetian as well... of course you conveniently ignore that. Also you can't blame Georgians because one of them turned out to be Stalin. Stalin was a traitor to Georgia, as were all the other Bolsheviks from the various ethnic groups. Stalin had the Bolshevik Armies invade the true Georgia (Democratic Republic of Georgia 1918-21) in 1921.

By your ridiculous logic Germans would be innocent from WW2 because Hitler was born Austrian.

Stalin is still revered by Russians, and it is Putin who is reviving Soviet ideology and symbolism. Putin is the worthy successor to Stalin, and just like Stalin, Putin crushes the true, free Georgians.

15 posted on 08/11/2008 2:21:20 AM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: ketelone

The other thing I dont understand is, why does he appear on TV with an EU flag in the background. Georgia is no member of the EU- is Sakashvili childish enough to imagine that he can escape the Bear by pretending hes an EU member?


i just watched the interview myself. i´ll asked myself the same question . why to hell does he gave an interview with an EU flag
in the background???? wishfull thinking or just totally nuts?


16 posted on 08/11/2008 2:22:43 AM PDT by austrian
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To: RusIvan

BTW it wasn’t Stalin alone who committed the crimes. The previous and following General Secretaries of the Communist Party, among them Russians, Ukranians etc. were also mass murders. Also who carried out the crimes? Commies from all ethnicities and nations... among them also ethnic Russians.


17 posted on 08/11/2008 2:23:42 AM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: ketelone
“As I see it, the Georgians started this show, and whether or not they were provoked, flattening a city full of civilians with rocket artillery, killing 2000 people, wasnt the way to react to that provocation.”

How do you think we won World War 2? Russia has no right to invade Georgian territory. Georgia was being attacked and they had no choice but to attack back. The Russians are the ones responsible and the ones who had this planned. They would have done this eventually no matter what.

18 posted on 08/11/2008 2:24:14 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (John McCain 2008!)
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By your ridiculous logic Germans would be innocent from WW2 because Hitler was born Austrian.==

Germans ELECTED Adolf Hitler on free elections in 1933. Russian did NEVER elected Josef Stalin on free elections. Do you see the difference?


19 posted on 08/11/2008 2:27:04 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

The Russians are the ones responsible and the ones who had this planned. They would have done this eventually no matter what.
==

Bla bla bla with no proves. It is named the slander.


20 posted on 08/11/2008 2:28:34 AM PDT by RusIvan (ABM can be used to fend off the weakered by first strike reciprocal answer.)
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