Posted on 08/11/2008 1:51:40 PM PDT by Ebenezer
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Bingo. One hopes Bush signs on to the lot.
Good analysis.
Russia set up and supports Transneistria in Moldova very similarly to Georgia and S. Ossetia. Their troops are there “keeping the peace”. They would look for any excuse to retake Moldova and threaten The Ukraine. We have to act now because waiting gives them the upper hand militarily as well as at the negotiating table.
I hate to say it, but this reminds me of when clinton offered Yugoslavia terms so ludicrous in exchange for not invading that they were forced to refuse. Then he started bombing civilians in Belgrade.
I don't say this to excuse the Russians, but to damn clinton for what he did--along with Blair, Schroeder, and NATO.
This really is horrible. First the Serbs were screwed, and now the Georgians. Who would want to be an ally of the U.S. after this? And what will President Bush now do about it? It's hard to see what the response should be.
make no mistake... Putin is taking our pulse with Georgia.
I'm sorry, I don't see it. The Russians aren't going to pull back. There isn't going to be an independent Georgia for us to rebuild.
Great analysis. While I see a lot of support for Georgia from the former soviet enslaved countries in eastern europe, western europe I don’t have much faith in.
I can’t see NATO rushing to give membership to Ukraine and Georgia. There will be endless harumphing at those meetings.
He's got our number.
Then I will go there and begin an underground force.
I will email you and let you know how it goes.
The Georgians have many powerful and wealthy friends -
in France and here in Seattle, among other places.
What is more the Georgians character inspires others to love them and stand with them.
The fat lady has not yet sung.
May God be with them.
‘The fat lady has not yet sung.’
A lot of people hope the fat lady’s song crushes the Russian Army. such a tiny country flying the Democracy Flag at it’s highest being bullied by the Fathers of Communism.
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Putin thinks he's got our number. Putin has Obama's number. This may have been a terrible miscalculation on Putin's part. I think the EU feels differently about an aggressive expansionist government in Eastern Europe than they do about the WOT. I think many of the people who refused to support us in invading Iraq are going to support the United States confronting the Russian Army.
I completely understand your point. I am just an optimist and think we might still possess a willingness to flex some muscle. I've been waiting my entire life for this fight. Reagan crushed the USSR but as long as Russia has an army they pose a threat to freedom.
Dang...you're throwin' a wet blanket on my optimism. I know you might be right. Dang.
How can Westen Europe not see the threat posed by the Soviet take over of the folks to their east? Oh yeah, now I remember...WWI and WWII. Dang
The article is largely an exercise in wimpy wishful thinking. Georgia is dead as an independent nation, and Saakashvili will be lucky to get away alive. If even he flees, he may end up with a mysterious radiation sickness. This should be a wakeup call to the the dodos in Washington. Neo-Soviet Russia is on the march, with a clear strategy to strangle the West by controlling energy and minerals, yet Bush is still talking about Russia losing “standing in the world.” As if the Russians have ever cared at all about anything but the “correlation of forces.” We should be thinking very hard about whether we can build up the other ex-Soviet states (and our own military) enough for them to withstand future Russian imperialism. Unless we do that, making them nominal members of NATO is a joke.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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