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DA Charges Officer Who Shot Woman, Her Son
NBC San Diego ^ | July 29, 2008 | NBC San Diego

Posted on 08/13/2008 9:18:38 AM PDT by rednesss

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To: freedomwarrior998
So someone attempting to crash a 1500 lb automobile into you is no big deal?

"Attempt to crash" and "already sideswiped" are two different things.

101 posted on 08/13/2008 11:35:33 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

“”Attempt to crash” and “already sideswiped” are two different things. “

Just as ‘sideswiping’ someone outside a car and ‘sideswiping’ someone sitting in a car is different.


102 posted on 08/13/2008 11:40:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: driftdiver
Well, now, in all fairness, the car was side-swiped, not dinged. She didn't open the door carelessly, she ran into him. Do you think the DA might bend to press pressure? (oh, that NEVER happens in California-ahem, I live here)

No posters I've ever met on Free Republic promote the shooting of little children whether they are cops or not, blindly or otherwise. That was a stupid comment.

Whether the cop was right to use deadly force or not will be decided by a jury. However, that Silva has an obvious history of drunk driving, was tested and found to be drunk, and was the aggressor following the cop to the parking lot is not disputed in any of the press that I read. Not the other way around. He didn't follow her, she followed him. Twice the legal limit. With a child in the car. That was a danger to her, the child, and everyone else on the road and in the parking lot, no matter what.

103 posted on 08/13/2008 11:43:33 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: texan75010
During the aftermath of Katrina, the police cut and ran like cowards leaving the helpless to die.

No, some stayed to join in on the looting.

"They was takin' all the good stuff"

104 posted on 08/13/2008 11:44:59 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: freedomwarrior998
Now you know exactly how many feet her car was from his?

Here is a pic of Silva's car. It doesn't look like much of a "high speed Crash."


105 posted on 08/13/2008 11:48:19 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: Hi Heels

“She didn’t open the door carelessly, she ran into him.”

She ran into the car attempting to get away from a man with a gun. My point was the speeds involved could not be expected to cause serious bodily injury. Plus the sideswiped had occurred, past tense. She was no longer a threat, however minor.

“No posters I’ve ever met on Free Republic promote the shooting of little children whether they are cops or not, blindly or otherwise. That was a stupid comment.”

Several posters here have expressed disregard for this woman and her kid. One poster advocated shooting her because she was ‘drunk’, although the cop had no way to know that.

“That was a danger to her, the child, and everyone else on the road and in the parking lot, no matter what.”

ok, so arrest her for suspected drunk driving, but don’t shoot her for suspected drunk driving. He didn’t know her or her record when he opened fire. All he knew was she almost hit him and was apparently angry at him.

To judge the shooting legit look at what happened before the trigger was pulled and not after.


106 posted on 08/13/2008 11:50:29 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: 95 Bravo

“This is a case where two stupid people encountered one another. Violence ensued. BOTH deserve jail time.
I feel sorry for the kid. He had no choice in any of this, and got shot because his mother’s a drunken moron.”

The first rational response on this whole thread. Anyone who is defending either of these two idiots is an idiot themselves.


107 posted on 08/13/2008 11:56:41 AM PDT by monday
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To: Ford4000
"You are forgetting that this cop has been coached on what to say happened. That makes his word next to meaningless."

More so if you knew from reading about this previously that before he was questioned: "Poorman said White was interviewed at the Oceanside police station with his attorney, a peer support officer and his supervisor."

You think they got told the "right" story by the time his attorney, a peer support officer and his supervisor from San Diego got there???? It must have taken at least an hour for his Supervisor to get there from San Diego.

108 posted on 08/13/2008 11:57:07 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: rednesss

I would think they got told she tried to run him down and thats all they needed to hear. Details could wait.


109 posted on 08/13/2008 12:03:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair
The pictures of his car show no discernible damage either.

From a previous story:

"Officer White’s wife dialed 911 on her cell phone to report an aggressive driver. Officer White stopped his car. Ms. Silva pulled alongside the driver’s side of the White’s vehicle, and stopped.

Officer White displayed a handgun, and then backed his car away from Ms. Silva’s car, coming to a complete stop. Ms. Silva dialed 911 and reported a man with a gun. Ms. Silva then reversed her vehicle in the direction of the Whites’ car, sideswiping it. Officer White fired five shots toward Ms. Silva’s vehicle."

Her car comes to rest about 20 feet away from his according to the paint marks in the parking lot. She must have been going all of 5 mph at that. Obviously breakneck, fear-for-your-life speeds when you are sitting in a car yourself.

Not exactly Talladega, going 180 mph, and swapping paint. But let's not get in the way of exaggerating the facts like some are prone to do around here. Just yell, "she's coming straight for us" and start blasting. And I'm not defending the drunk mom, but the bootlickers here will never admit that two wrongs don't make a right. She was out of line, and he was a serious threat to public safety.


110 posted on 08/13/2008 12:05:45 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: driftdiver
"She ran into the car attempting to get away from a man with a gun. My point was the speeds involved could not be expected to cause serious bodily injury. Plus the sideswiped had occurred, past tense. She was no longer a threat, however minor."

She shouldn't have chased him. Then she would not have been in a position in which she had to run into a car and face a gun. She was drunk, that's why. So always a danger. And she had a child in the car.

"Several posters here have expressed disregard for this woman and her kid. One poster advocated shooting her because she was ‘drunk’, although the cop had no way to know that."

The poster didn't mention the woman, only the child. Re-read the comment. It was a mean and stupid comment. I stand by that. And I have very little sympathy for drunk drivers, myself. If you had ever lost a family member to one, you might see my point of view.

"ok, so arrest her for suspected drunk driving, but don’t shoot her for suspected drunk driving. He didn’t know her or her record when he opened fire. All he knew was she almost hit him and was apparently angry at him."

The press says she WAS arrested for drunk driving. And she didn't "almost" hit him. She DID hit him. Why she hit him is assumed. Why he pulled a gun is assumed.

But she did follow him. A very bad idea. No matter who he is. Especially, and I'm going to say this again, drunk with a child in the car. In my mind, a hanging offense.

She hits one of my kids drunk and she'll wish to God she had been shot.

111 posted on 08/13/2008 12:07:37 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: rednesss

Good! I hope that he is convicted and gets all 9 years.


112 posted on 08/13/2008 12:10:10 PM PDT by sport
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To: Sandreckoner

If it had been a “private citizen” who did the shooting, they would still be in jail awaiting trial.


113 posted on 08/13/2008 12:12:14 PM PDT by sport
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To: Hi Heels

“She shouldn’t have chased him. Then she would not have been in a position in which she had to run into a car and face a gun.”

people do that without being drunk. Stupid of her, yes. Deserving to be shot, no.

“And I have very little sympathy for drunk drivers, myself. “

Same here, however I don’t think police should start summary executions of suspected drunk drivers.

My “almost hit” was in reference to the near traffic accident before pulling into the parking lot. Statements indicated he pulled his gun BEFORE she sideswiped him. He shot her AFTER being sideswiped as she was attempting to drive away.

“Especially, and I’m going to say this again, drunk with a child in the car. In my mind, a hanging offense.”

Fine, let a court decide and go judge dredd on her.


114 posted on 08/13/2008 12:14:02 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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Out of control cop ping.


115 posted on 08/13/2008 12:16:20 PM PDT by commonguymd (A de facto single party country is nigh. The partisan bickering is a mere bilking mechanism.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
The affidavits reads like most of the newspaper stories, except for taking White's word as fact.

I do note that White pulled his gun as the cars were side-by-side and BEFORE she sideswiped him.

116 posted on 08/13/2008 12:18:44 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Were you there?


117 posted on 08/13/2008 12:19:44 PM PDT by sport
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To: Hi Heels
"And I have very little sympathy for drunk drivers, myself. If you had ever lost a family member to one, you might see my point of view."

Well conveniently enough, he (Officer White) was never tested for either alcohol or drugs in his system. And this at a shooting. Shouldn't that be standard operating procedure????? I worked for Weyerhaeuser a few careers ago, if you were so much as involved in any type of accident, you could rest assured that you would be peeing into a cup in the very near future. Why not here??? He discharged a firearm, and hit 2 people. WTF?????

118 posted on 08/13/2008 12:20:56 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: Sandreckoner
"Oh, wait, he’s a cop, and this is FR, home to a bizarre number of people with a Pig Complex."

EXACTLY.

Always attracts a grip of loserdopian contrarians.

119 posted on 08/13/2008 12:26:44 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: Sandreckoner

Another great response.


120 posted on 08/13/2008 12:27:41 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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