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To: GodGunsGuts
"aka, the ghost in the machine."

The existence of the mind is proof of a supernatural reality.

Were 'mind' purely a material artifact, then it would obey physical laws and would necessarily reach the same conclusion given the same set of facts. Since it does not, it is not material but supernatural.

488 posted on 08/15/2008 2:36:13 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan; metmom
Excellent point. I have had that idea in my head since childhood. I'm pretty sure CS Lewis was the Christian who first planted it there. And while I have never heard anybody put it more poetically than Lewis, you definitely get the prize for putting it most succinctly. Thanks for the reply!

All the best—GGG

495 posted on 08/15/2008 2:48:33 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GourmetDan
Were 'mind' purely a material artifact, then it would obey physical laws and would necessarily reach the same conclusion given the same set of facts. Since it does not, it is not material but supernatural.

Except that, as individuals differ, no two minds have the exact same set of facts. Even the same person, at two different points in time, has different sets of facts.

Which doesn't mean the mind is or is not purely material -- In fact, I believe that there is a non-material component to the mind. It just means that your statement is premised on an event that cannot happen, i.e., two minds having the same set of facts.

510 posted on 08/15/2008 3:28:42 PM PDT by onewhowatches
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