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To: SeeSharp
Heavy Sigh... It is of course completely refuted by Einstein. The speed of light is the same regardless of the reference frame. These guys are just fantasizing about what could be if Special Relativity weren't true.

True, about Einstein and SR, but they are not talking about objects moving THROUGH space faster than light, but rather manipulating space-time itself. Also, what Einstein actually said in his STR was that nothing (with mass) can be accelerated-to OR slowed-downed-to the speed of light. In theory, he said, something could already be traveling faster than light (see 'Tachyons').

From the article: "Strange as it sounds, current evidence supports the notion that the fabric of space-time can expand faster than the speed of light, because the reality in which light travels is itself expanding."

26 posted on 08/14/2008 6:36:16 AM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the ObamaRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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To: ETL; SeeSharp

This article makes little sense. It’s written far more from a science-fiction perspective than an astrophysics perspective. The existence of the “space-time fabric,” for example, is not based in physical reality but rather in human perception. The last sentence in particular is bad. This is easy to assume if you believe in String Theory, but if you believe in the currently understood observable universe, it becomes more and more meaningless. For example, “the reality in which light travels” is, in a vacuum, nothing. It can neither expand nor contract because it is nothing. Again, however, if you’re making the assumption that “nothing” is actually composed of superstrings, then you can make that assumption.


29 posted on 08/14/2008 6:53:33 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: ETL

Guys, i dont know how to tell you this, and i know it upsets a lot of science fiction, but there’s only 3 dimensions, up and down, back to front, and side to side. And time doesn’t go faster if the clock is taken into space. Time isn’t a dimension. A lot of this “physics” is some guy does math, sees the observable world doesnt match his correct math, and then announces, “hey guys, they world my math describes must be INVISIBLE”. It couldnt possibly be that his starting place had an error so of course his math is correct but the reality doesn’t match. No magic strings,,none of it. PT Barnum spoke to all this rather accurately,,,,


30 posted on 08/14/2008 6:54:16 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", what title has islam earned from us?,)
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To: ETL
...because the reality in which light travels is itself expanding.

Actually "reality" is expanding at an infinite rate spherically toward the "static" infinite expanse, while contracting at an infinite rate spherically toward the static "inifintesimality, also while multiplying those numbers of dynamic "infinitesimalities" at an infinite rate. (The numbers of infinitesimalities is the filling of the expanse "shell") All three are the dynamic boundaries of the Infinite "gaming-area"

32 posted on 08/14/2008 7:01:17 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: ETL

and guys, yes, i know i’m a salmon swimming upsteam on this issue. But i think a lot of this modern physics such as string hypothesis (you need to be able to TEST a theory)is about as real as spoon bending with your mind. It offends my sense of reason. Well, thats all, I’m heading into the bunker, so fire away.


35 posted on 08/14/2008 7:47:17 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", what title has islam earned from us?,)
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