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Children Stealing Gold in Beijing
Pajamas Media ^ | August 17, 2008 | Gordon Chang

Posted on 08/17/2008 10:11:47 AM PDT by AJKauf

Chinese coaches tried to hide the ages of the girls with “enough makeup to shame a drag queen,” but no amount of lipstick and eyeliner can hide the fact that the American gymnasts have curves and breasts and the Chinese ones don’t. On average, the girls on the Chinese team are 3.5 inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter than their American counterparts....

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; china; olympics
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To: AJKauf

Not to say the Chinese are not cheating with respect to age, they could be, and I am sure it is right to suspect them, but -

They are Chinese. The average American or European in a crowd in Hong Kong cannot fail to understand the physical differences. There are racial differences in build, height, etc.

Even for a population that is selected for a given physique like competitive athletes are (there are no 6’ women competing after all), the people chosen will reflect to a degree on the available pool.

And in a population of 1 Billion of disproportionately slight build, if slightness is of value in a sport, then it stands to reason that they will find slighter girls than we do out of 300 Million who are disproportionately rubustly-built.


21 posted on 08/17/2008 10:45:16 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: AJKauf
We have age limits for driving and drinking and voting because they are important things. No need for age limits in sporting events. For that matter there shouldn't be a womans division in any sport either.

Let the Weak be Crushed!

22 posted on 08/17/2008 10:47:16 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: BallyBill
No need for age limits in sporting events. For that matter there shouldn't be a womans division in any sport either.
 
Let the Weak be Crushed!

LOL, that's what I think of the WNBA.

23 posted on 08/17/2008 10:50:14 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (My friends, I am voting against Obama because he is white.)
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To: HIDEK6

I KNOW! That guy who won the silver acted like he won the Gold..it was kind of embarrassing!!!


24 posted on 08/17/2008 10:55:37 AM PDT by Hildy (You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.)
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To: Scotswife

The bottom line is the 20 year old American who won LOOKED so much better, meaning she was graceful and experienced. Alot of girls have balance and can tumble, but a gymnist is supposed to look graceful and elegant while doing it!


25 posted on 08/17/2008 10:57:49 AM PDT by Hildy (You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.)
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To: AJKauf
but no amount of lipstick and eyeliner can hide the fact that the American gymnasts have curves and breasts and the Chinese ones don’t.

Perv! /s

26 posted on 08/17/2008 11:01:33 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I walk into a Chinese restaurant, the chef asks me "Can you smell what the woks been cooking?")
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To: Dr. Frank fan; AJKauf; All
The fact that China is so desperate to win Olympic medals ...

That's it in a nutshell.

They take these little girls away from their parents when they are babies, I believe about 3 years old.

They are intensely trained for years and live in gymnastic camps away from their parents.

One girl said she would like to see her parents more often; she sees them once a year.

Of course in most if not all cases, the parents are agreeable to the practices as it helps them be more acceptable to the oppressive communist dictatorship that is China.

Plus is is better than at 12 years old or so to be making the sneakers that the olympic contenders are wearing.

27 posted on 08/17/2008 11:01:34 AM PDT by Syncro (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Hildy

She did look gorgeous, and she managed to win despite getting ripped on her vault, bars, and beam scores.

It is good to see our girls triumph even while they are being cheated.


28 posted on 08/17/2008 11:02:57 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: AJKauf
So true.. the America girls are women the Chinese girls are girls..
Even Captain Obvious can see that..
29 posted on 08/17/2008 11:04:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: All

American girls develop at an earlier age than most Asians. My granddaughter is 12 and looks 17. I’m not kidding. She’s already 5’7”, 120lbs and a 34B. :-) She is often mistaken for a high school senior. She thinks it’s cool when guys in their 20’s flirt with her because they think she’s closer to their age. Me, I don’t think it’s so funny and I tell her so.

I don’t doubt that the Chinese cheat if it benefits them but they do tend to be smaller.


30 posted on 08/17/2008 11:04:42 AM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: buwaya

We have beens seeing plenty of chinese girls in our own country for many years now.
Many american couples are adopting vast numbers of abandoned little girls from chinese orphanages.

Many of those little girls have found their way into american gymastics programs.

If there is one group of asian children american gymnastics coaches have been exposed to the most - it would be chinese.


31 posted on 08/17/2008 11:05:42 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Melinda in TN

did you watch the competition?

What did your eyes tell you?


32 posted on 08/17/2008 11:06:39 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

“Are they too young? They may be! But simple looks and comparisons side-by-side are not good indicators, especially when considering the genetic differences between races.”

Then this is a recent development in chinese gymnasts.
This controversy has only arisen in Athens and Beijing.

So - 16 year old chinese competitors from the past looked like teenagers - and now they don’t.
And chinese gymnasts living in american look their age, but chinese gymnasts in china do not.
Now they have baby teeth, and have even been reported as being younger in older chinese news articles.


33 posted on 08/17/2008 11:10:30 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

That lookis like an old picture of Shawn Johnson, maybe from 2006 or 2007. She is now 16 years old.


34 posted on 08/17/2008 11:11:17 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; Virginia Ridgerunner; TigersEye; Army Air Corps; jmc813

LOL....the second biggest chicom troll on this forum makes its appearance.


35 posted on 08/17/2008 11:11:17 AM PDT by indcons (People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news. - A. J. Liebling)
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To: P8riot

As for the kid in undies comment, I am not sure what advantage a kid would have over an adolescent, but the rule is there for a reason.”

The younger ones are totally fearless, and they weigh considerably less, so balance is easier.
As gynmasts learn their routines, they grow “muscle memory”. As they mature, their larger breasts and wider hips can change how their routines that they have practiced for years get altered.
Muscle Memory is what gives you the ability to “always be able to ride a bike or a horse” if you ever learned as a kid. I am not saying those muscles are in great shape-—I am just saying “You never forget how to ride a bike or a horse”.


36 posted on 08/17/2008 11:12:38 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Scotswife

12 years ago, 15 year old American teens looked like 15 year olds. Now 12 year old American girls look like they are 17.

Our baseline of “teenager” has shifted. See Melinda’s post right above that you simply ignored to answer or address...


37 posted on 08/17/2008 11:14:38 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Hildy

Anastatia/aka Nastia Liukin will turn 19 years old in November, I think. She’s officially listed as 18 years old. And, yes she is graceful and a great gymnast too. Both Nastia and Shawn were much better overall than the Chinese girl who came in third. That little girl got about 0.5 extra points on her balance beam routine which she did not earn, IMHO.


38 posted on 08/17/2008 11:16:46 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Scotswife

I don’t see a lot of curves on any of them, American or Chinese, because most gymnasts are not as developed as others their age, but the Chinese definitely look younger to me.

I work with a Korean lady that is almost 50 and looks 20. She has no curves and no wrinkles. Sometimes they just look younger. That’s why I can’t positively say the Chinese cheated unless tests were done to verify their ages.


39 posted on 08/17/2008 11:16:48 AM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: AJKauf
"You stupid imperialist pigs! Of course we have cheated you, you easily deceived capitalist tools! You can never defeat us you American swine!!

Normally we kill our females at birth as they are not useful to the State, but for tricking you we always allow a few to survive!! Die you pathetic nation of sniveling Obamas! We shall conquer you and annihilate you!"

40 posted on 08/17/2008 11:17:11 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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