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Some blogs have picked up on this; there's a chart showing the % loss of species and ecosystems that is not pretty:


1 posted on 08/20/2008 11:03:50 AM PDT by cogitator
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George Carlin - Saving the planet
2 posted on 08/20/2008 11:10:03 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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3 posted on 08/20/2008 11:12:52 AM PDT by Jaxter (Everything I needed to know about Obama I learned by Googling "Black Liberation Theology".)
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Just more Liberal scare tactics to push socialist agenda. Spices come and go. 99.999% of all species that have ever lived have become extinct, without man kinds help.
What you will not see in this is the fact that when you put up a sea based oil drilling rig, sea life explodes. This is been proven in Louisiana and has been so affective that when a rig is decommissioned other states are trying to buy them to put off their shores.


4 posted on 08/20/2008 11:12:54 AM PDT by Exton1
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on par with vast ecological upheavals of the past

Were these also Man made? I think not! Yes, we need to keep the oceans as clean as we can.

But the Enviro_Nazis probably want all world people to stay off the oceans for a least a couple centuries. There that will fix it.

5 posted on 08/20/2008 11:12:57 AM PDT by BillT (God said it, that settles it whether I believe it or not! (Bible rules))
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I can tell you for a fact that your table listing a 96% decline in Goliath Grouper (formerly known as Jewfish) in the Florida Keys since 1956 is so patently false as to be absurd.

I would assume if this one is so distorted, the rest is as well. I have 34 years residency in the Florida Keys and i know the Jewfish and all other species in the Keys quite well. And yes, I have extensive college studies in marine biology.


6 posted on 08/20/2008 11:14:36 AM PDT by jsh3180
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And here I thought the oceans were supposed to be dead by 1980. Clearly, we’re not killing enough fish.


7 posted on 08/20/2008 11:14:45 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents give their children are siblings.)
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What a joke...


8 posted on 08/20/2008 11:15:11 AM PDT by andyandval
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12 posted on 08/20/2008 11:18:11 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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And you believe that alarmist nonsense? The ocean is not acidified, except in Jeremy's head. The ocean is still alkaline, with pH well above 7.0, which is neutral. Coral grew strongly in previous periods, when the temperature was significantly warmer than today.

Even if temperatures rise significantly, which is probably not going to happen, fish etc. will just move a little further North as the ocean warms very slowly (its time constant is over 1000 years).

13 posted on 08/20/2008 11:18:43 AM PDT by expatpat
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You mean the Democrats will take over?


14 posted on 08/20/2008 11:23:20 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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Doesn’t slime contain a lot of oil we can recover and burn in our cars?


15 posted on 08/20/2008 11:23:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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“The Ice Age” of the 70’s never happened.

“Global Warming” is quickly being exposed as a lie.

“Man's Destruction of Oceans”, and with them our own destruction, will be the next target.

They'll run with it for 20 years until the facts catch up to them.

16 posted on 08/20/2008 11:26:19 AM PDT by ryan71
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Constant monitoring of Ocean temperatures by ARGOS (http://www.argos-system.org/html/applications/ocean_en.html) shows no change. Coral reefs have been destroyed by dust coming from Africa due to cyclical droughts. It is arrogant to think that mankind can destroy the whole world by just existing.


17 posted on 08/20/2008 11:27:10 AM PDT by Exton1
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“Dogs and cats....living together....MASS HYSTERIA!!!”


20 posted on 08/20/2008 11:32:19 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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I have a solution involving a professor with short lengths of rope around his ankles, some 45 lb. barbell weights, and the ocean. Human population decreases slightly, and the fish get fed.


21 posted on 08/20/2008 11:33:49 AM PDT by smokinleroy (How come gas prices spiked only AFTER the democrats won Congress?)
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A ping...of DOOMAGE!


22 posted on 08/20/2008 11:39:08 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 ("An American Carol", due October 3rd in theaters!)
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We can completely replace petroleum by growing bioengineered saltwater algae on about 3% of the open ocean surface. Not only does algae convert CO2 into O2 creating a closed loop it removes pollution from the air and water. There will be an explosion of new ocean life because algae is the beginning of the ocean food chain.


23 posted on 08/20/2008 11:41:33 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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I think we should be concerned about pollution in our oceans. You can only dump so much crap into the oceans without causing damage...and the world's increasing population is dumping more and more stuff that eventually finds its way into the sea.

I am a conservative...and, IMO, part of being conservative is being a good steward of the environment. There is so much we do not know about God's creation. We should be careful in our care for it.

NOTE: Before I get all the nasty replies...this does not mean that I support an expensive, economy killing green agenda...it just means we need to find the right balance.

24 posted on 08/20/2008 11:42:05 AM PDT by goldfinch
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They already printed the blueprint for the outcome (3 years ago):

[ScienceDaily (Mar. 1, 2005) — Washington, D.C. -– Volcanic eruptions in Siberia 251 million years ago may have started a cascade of events leading to high hydrogen sulfide levels in the oceans and atmosphere and precipitating the largest mass extinction in Earth’s history, according to a Penn State geoscientist.


“The recent dating of the Siberian trap volcanoes to be contemporaneous with the end-Permian extinction suggests that they were the trigger for the environmental events that caused the extinctions,” says Lee R. Kump, professor of geosciences. “But the warming caused by these volcanoes through carbon dioxide emissions would not be large enough to cause mass extinctions by itself.”

That warming, however, could set off a series of events that led to mass extinction. During the end-Permian extinction 95 percent of all species on Earth became extinct, compared to only 75 percent during the K-T when a large asteroid apparently caused the dinosaurs to disappear.

Volcanic carbon dioxide would cause atmospheric warming that would, in turn, warm surface ocean water. Normally, the deep ocean gets its oxygen from the atmosphere at the poles. Cold water there soaks up oxygen from the air and because cold water is dense, it sinks and slowly moves equator-ward, taking oxygen with it. The warmer the water, the less oxygen can dissolve and the slower the water sinks and moves toward the equator.

“Warmer water slows the conveyer belt and brings less oxygen to the deep oceans,” says Kump.

The constant rain of organic debris produced by marine plants and animals, needs oxygen to decompose. With less oxygen, fewer organics are aerobically consumed.

“Today, there are not enough organics in the oceans to go anoxic,” says Kump. “But in the Permian, if the warming from the volcanic carbon dioxide decreased oceanic oxygen, especially if atmospheric oxygen levels were lower, the oceans would be depleted of oxygen.”

Once the oxygen is gone, the oceans become the realm of bacteria that obtain their oxygen from sulfur oxide compounds. These bacteria strip oxygen from the compounds and produce hydrogen sulfide. Hydrogen sulfide kills aerobic organisms.

Humans can smell hydrogen sulfide gas, the smell of rotten cabbage, in the parts per trillion range. In the deeps of the Black Sea today, hydrogen sulfide exists at about 200 parts per million. This is a toxic brew in which any aerobic, oxygen-needing organism would die. For the Black Sea, the hydrogen sulfide stays in the depths because our rich oxygen atmosphere mixes in the top layer of water and controls the diffusion of hydrogen sulfide upwards.

In the end-Permian, as the levels of atmospheric oxygen fell and the levels of hydrogen sulfide and carbon dioxide rose, the upper levels of the oceans could have become rich in hydrogen sulfide catastrophically. This would kill most the oceanic plants and animals. The hydrogen sulfide dispersing in the atmosphere would kill most terrestrial life.]

Seems like the planet has a way of protecting itself from all its rude parasites.


26 posted on 08/20/2008 12:05:42 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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“The Rise of the Slime”

Sounds like what’s been going on in Washington DC for the last twenty years.


27 posted on 08/20/2008 12:08:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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