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California Attorney General Sues Gun Club Over Forest Fires (6 Million Dollars!)
johnjacobh.wordpress.com ^ | 08/20/08 | johnjacobh.wordpress.com

Posted on 08/20/2008 1:16:13 PM PDT by Copernicus

The suit, filed in late July in Trinity County Superior Court, alleges that the gun club was hosting a “service rifle shoot” on July 29, 2006, in which participants where firing assault weapons, including Ruger Mini 14s and Armalite AR-15s.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; rkba
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As President William (BJ)Jefferson Clinton said "We will bend every possible rule"

Good thing we have the "Vote Freedom First" Administration to bring a halt to this kind of nonsense.

1 posted on 08/20/2008 1:16:15 PM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus

It is nonsense


2 posted on 08/20/2008 1:17:00 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Copernicus

All the Gun Club has to do is declare that they are Democrats and the MSM and Rat party will come to their aide.


3 posted on 08/20/2008 1:18:37 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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...in which participants where firing assault weapons, including Ruger Mini 14s...[emphasis added]

The author just won the Stupid Prat of the Day Award.
4 posted on 08/20/2008 1:18:41 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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Who filed the suit and what evidence do they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the fire was as a result of the clubs event?.................


5 posted on 08/20/2008 1:19:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Joe Brower
Ping to Banglist. The War On RKBA continues unabated.

What will happen under Obama or ObamaLITE(McCain)

Best regards,

6 posted on 08/20/2008 1:19:04 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Army Air Corps

Whenever someone says that near me, I usually say, “ALL weapons are “assault weapons” That’s what they’re made for.”.....................


7 posted on 08/20/2008 1:20:09 PM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Red Badger
Who filed the suit and what evidence do they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the fire was as a result of the clubs event?.................

Evidence? We don't need no stink'in evidence!

Best regards,

8 posted on 08/20/2008 1:21:56 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Army Air Corps
properly equipped, yes, a mini14 can turn froma harmless ranch rifle into an EBR.




9 posted on 08/20/2008 1:22:18 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: Copernicus

Jerry moonbeam Brown calif AG... dang I widh we could recall his loon butt


10 posted on 08/20/2008 1:22:51 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Red Badger
what evidence do they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the fire was as a result of the clubs event?

Proof beyond a reasonable doubt is only needed in criminal cases. If (and I recognize this is a big "if") the AG can prove by a preponderance of the evidence that (1)they acted negligently, and (2) that their negligence started the fire, then yes, they should be liable.

11 posted on 08/20/2008 1:27:12 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Army Air Corps

agree. i don’t care what it looks like, if it isn’t fully automatic it isn’t an assault rifle. these are tha same idiots that think everything with tracks is a tank and bulldozers have wheels (jerusalem attack)


12 posted on 08/20/2008 1:28:31 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (green is the new mean)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

But knowing Jerry Moonbeam and his minions I would not put it past them to manufacture evidence in cases such as these...............


13 posted on 08/20/2008 1:29:05 PM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Copernicus
This article is misleading... it isn't about the right to bear arms... this is just a simple liability case... a sparking bullet was alleged to cause the fire and burn down a house...

If the state can prove their case... then it is the Gun Club's responsibility to make good.

14 posted on 08/20/2008 1:29:45 PM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: Red Badger

I think that because this is a civil suit the standard of proof is not ‘beyond a reasonable doubt.’ Instead, the prosecution will be required to prove there is ‘clear and convincing’ evidence they were responsible. That is a lower level of proof.


15 posted on 08/20/2008 1:31:36 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Lurking Libertarian
When is the AG going to start suing "gay" groups to recover the taxpayer subsidies for treating AIDS infected gays? The gay groups are promoting the behavior and the health care burden foisted on the taxpayers is astronomical. Perhaps that isn't "politically correct". Attacking gun clubs brings cheers from the lefties. It's more political grandstanding.
16 posted on 08/20/2008 1:34:04 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Copernicus
Hm. I guess it would be too much work for the author of this piece to actually tell us whether or not the fire in question was actually caused by the event in question....

If the shooters actually did cause the fire, then I guess they should get the same treatment as anybody else who causes a fire ... and this is it.

17 posted on 08/20/2008 1:34:20 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: From The Deer Stand

All the Gun Club has to do is declare that they are Democrats and the MSM and Rat party will come to their aide.

I dunno Rats are used to eating their own.


18 posted on 08/20/2008 1:34:24 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: FFranco

In California, juries have the IQ of a warm day in Siberia.............


19 posted on 08/20/2008 1:38:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: Copernicus

Too bad we can’t sue enviro-mental-ists for making it impossible go properly thin and maintain forests and so being the direct cause of increasingly more dangerous and damaging forest fires.


20 posted on 08/20/2008 1:41:09 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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