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To: netmilsmom
I didn't say it was easy ... they need constant care. You cannot leave them alone because some will do what you described ... .

My point was that people are too SELF ABSORBED to care about anyone else other than themselves ... .

I cannot compromise on my “solution” - family who is there at all times to “babysit” the person.

I know my solution is not acceptable to today's society but it is the right answer even if sacrifice is needed ... and that's where it doesn't fit in with today's society ... we don't sacrifice anything - heck we can't even live within our means ... mortgage “crisis” ... so caring for a troubled person is asking too much ... and then we wonder about “the times we live in” ... . I don't wonder about it ... we've lost our way - that is the “sane” people ... .

48 posted on 08/21/2008 9:26:31 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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My “solution” doesn’t fit today’s society of convenience.

I should not have responded on this thread.

What I think most people want to hear on this thread is more laws to involuntarily lock up the insane people so the burden is shifted to the state. The state could then load em up wiht more chemicals and family wouldn’t have to be bothered and go about life as usual. It’s the shifting of responsibility that troubles me ... . This “solution” is not something I would advocate and yet I know what I’d like to see will not happen - insane or troubled people are not something that a typical person wants to be burdened with ... it interrupts their life and is an inconvenience.


49 posted on 08/21/2008 9:29:55 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
No, my FRiend. You just don't know enough people who have said that they could do what you are saying, and ended up with tragic results.

Everyone must sleep. If a person is psychotic and wants to either suicide or kill, they wait.

These are not stupid people, remember there is a fine line between genius and insanity. Some of the most intelligent people in the world are also very sick. When I worked Psych, I had poems written to me, songs recorded for me and was sketched more than once. They will plot to do what their minds are telling them to do.

No amount of “care” from the family can overcome that.

51 posted on 08/21/2008 9:33:00 AM PDT by netmilsmom (The Party of Darkness prefers to have the lights out. - Go Fierce 50!!!)
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To: nmh

>>You cannot leave them alone because some will do what you described ...<<

She wasn’t alone when she suicided.
Now imagine if she was homicidal instead.


52 posted on 08/21/2008 9:34:57 AM PDT by netmilsmom (The Party of Darkness prefers to have the lights out. - Go Fierce 50!!!)
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To: nmh

“My point was that people are too SELF ABSORBED to care about anyone else other than themselves ... .”

You’re wrong. Or just way too cynical about people.

“I cannot compromise on my “solution” - family who is there at all times to “babysit” the person.”

BABYSIT? BABYSIT? You think you can “babysit” people who are sometimes homicidal and completely delusional?


54 posted on 08/21/2008 9:37:38 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: nmh
I didn't say it was easy ... they need constant care. You cannot leave them alone because some will do what you described

Taking care of a seriously mentally ill people isn't like taking care of an aged parent who has lost their mental faculties. The aged parent, though difficult to take care of, is not likely to be dangerous (except maybe inadvertenly). But an adult paranoid schizophrenic, for example, can be a very dangerous person. It's unrealistic to expect a regular family (especially one with children in the house) to let such a dangerous person live with them.

You're assuming that families don't want to take care of mentally ill people because it's too much of a hassle, but in many cases it comes down to a safety issue.

72 posted on 08/21/2008 10:50:09 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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