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To: forkinsocket
Written language is more than a phonetic version of its spoken cousin: it contains etymological and morphological clues to meaning too. Bingo!
2 posted on
08/21/2008 4:44:49 PM PDT by
sionnsar
(Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: forkinsocket
and may underlie the national test results released on August 12th which revealed that almost a third of English 14-year-olds cannot read properly. It would be interesting to learn whether that figure was consistent historically or whether the author is evading the possibility that the skewls mai bi to blaim.
3 posted on
08/21/2008 4:49:43 PM PDT by
sionnsar
(Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: TR Jeffersonian
5 posted on
08/21/2008 4:56:00 PM PDT by
kalee
To: forkinsocket
Anyone remember the decabet skit?
6 posted on
08/21/2008 4:56:24 PM PDT by
NonValueAdded
(Rest In Peace, Capt. Ed "Too Tall" Freeman (1928-2008))
To: forkinsocket
One solution... is to accept the most common misspellings ...rather than correct them.The exact wrong thing to do!
8 posted on
08/21/2008 5:00:46 PM PDT by
BenLurkin
To: forkinsocket; LibreOuMort
I've learned from my Anglophone/Francophone wife that we have it much easier than the French. Their written language is so far from accurately phonetic that correct spelling is achieved only by a few.
And before everyone jumps me or the French, I have found the French people even in Paris to be polite, helpful and friendly to this non-French-speaking obvious American (I think obvious: in Vienna and in Germany I sometimes get asked directions by native German speakers -- and if French folk are being friendly to Germans now... *\;-).
Scottish Gaelic, on the other hand, is nearly perfectly phonetic. "Smaoineachadh" (thinking) is pronounced exactly as written -- once you know the rules. *\;-)
9 posted on
08/21/2008 5:00:48 PM PDT by
sionnsar
(Impeach Obama |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: forkinsocket
You know, it’s true...this whole English language thing just isn’t working out. Let’s try something else.
11 posted on
08/21/2008 5:20:38 PM PDT by
AndrewB
To: forkinsocket
a central regulatory authority capable of overseeing standardisation. Shouldn't that be "standardiZation"?
Don't have one; don't want one; don't need one. Our language is just fine the way it is.
12 posted on
08/21/2008 5:21:39 PM PDT by
IronJack
(=)
To: forkinsocket
Orthographic reform is like the Norwegian Blue Parrot. An idea whose time will never come.
13 posted on
08/21/2008 5:28:42 PM PDT by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
To: forkinsocket
www.hotforwords.com Marina will tell you all about where the words came from!
14 posted on
08/21/2008 5:32:37 PM PDT by
WellyP
To: forkinsocket
Perhaps one reason why large numbers of 14 year olds in England do not read English properly is that they are spending most of their time memorizing the Koran rather than reading the King’s English.
15 posted on
08/21/2008 5:51:02 PM PDT by
The Great RJ
("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
To: forkinsocket; All
For anyone interested, I highly recommend The Mother Tongue.
Sorry, can't remember the author, it was probably 20(?) years ago,
but it was a fascinating (and humorous) account of the development of the English language, including grammar and spelling.
I don't suppose anyone remembers it?
...cue crickets...
16 posted on
08/21/2008 6:02:25 PM PDT by
astyanax
(Support your local veterans. Napalm a hippie.)
To: forkinsocket
"Written language is more than a phonetic version of its spoken cousin: it contains etymological and morphological clues to meaning too" Ok.
Huh?
17 posted on
08/21/2008 6:48:57 PM PDT by
lowbridge
("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
To: forkinsocket
O-U-G-H
by Charles Battell Loomis
I'm taught p-l-o-u-g-h
Shall be pronounced “plow.”
“Zat’s easy w’en you know,” I say,
“Mon Anglais, I'll get through!”
My teacher say zat in zat case,
O-u-g-h is “oo.”
And zen I laugh and say to him,
“Zees Anglais make me cough.”
He say “Not ‘coo’ but in zat word,
O-u-g-h is ‘off,’’”
“Oh, ______! Such varied sounds
Of words make me hiccough!”
He say, “Again mon frien’ ees wrong;
O-u-g-h is ‘up’
In hiccough.” Zen I cry, “No more,
You make my t’roat feel rough.”
“Non, non!” he cry, “You are not right;
O-u-g-h is ‘uff.’”
I say, “I try to spik your words,
I cannot spik zem though.”
“In time you'll learn, but now you're wrong!
O-u-g-h is ‘owe’”
“I'll try no more, I s’all go mad,
I'll drown me in ze lough!”
“But ere you drown yourself,” said he,
“O-u-g-h is ‘ock.’”
He taught no more, I held him fast
And killed him wiz a rough.
26 posted on
08/21/2008 9:44:08 PM PDT by
decal
("You should make a point of trying every experience once, excepting incest and folk dancing.")
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