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IOC: Despite questions, no proof
www.nbcolympics.com (breaking news during NBC Olympics coverage WDIV) ^

Posted on 08/21/2008 10:36:24 PM PDT by raygun

BEIJING (AP) - Despite persistent questions about the ages of several members of the Chinese women's gymnastics team that won the gold medal, the International Olympic Committee said Friday there is still no proof anyone cheated.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcolympics.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008olympics; china; gymnastage; ioc; olympics
The FIG is supposed to make an announcement sometime today about this. The article is fairly neutral, but the talking head NBC Olympic guy came on with the huge BREAKING NEWS banner, and made the announcement that ALL THREE GYMNASTS are presently under serious scrutiny because of some recently discovered documentation. Something tangible and not ethereal like a list on a web-page.

The announcer made a distinct insinuation that the medals awarded to all three athletes in question could be revoked. Went right up to the line, but stopped just short of stating that was what actually was going to happen. Dunno, some sort of double-secret extra-serious review probation thing. Shrugs.

If that does happen, I get the idea there are some vague implications for other teams that competed in the same events the three Chinese athletes in question competed in.

1 posted on 08/21/2008 10:36:25 PM PDT by raygun
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To: raygun

I believe no one on the IOC wants to do the “deed” until every foreigner is out of Beijing.

In fact, if those rightfully cheated out of winning by the Chinese deception waited until the Summer Olympics was over, or better yet until BOTH Olympic meets were over, I’m sure that the Chinese gymnasts would lose those medals.

That would allow China to save face at these very public venues where they are showing off how capable they are to the world. In the long run they don’t give a damn about their athletes.


2 posted on 08/21/2008 10:46:55 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: raygun

Thats interesting....none of the Olympic coverage on the West Coast has been live....zippo....maybe I will tune into this breaking news in a few hours.


3 posted on 08/21/2008 10:46:57 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: raygun

Cmdjing pointed out in another thread that He had been in another competition which was closed to 14 and ups just last year (where age was given as 13), which is interesting in that it shows He was factually ineligible for either that event OR the olympics, or both, simply due to the conflicting age requirements.

He, of course, has no control over any of the decisions on what events to participate in, or how old to be for them. The human element of the gulag-gymnists hopefully will get some rational scrutiny.


4 posted on 08/21/2008 10:47:33 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: SatinDoll

I agree. While I don’t believe anything will come of all this besides a dog and pony show with no change in the team competition outcome, nothing serious will be said until the games are over and all the athletes are out of the country.


5 posted on 08/21/2008 11:03:54 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: BurbankKarl
I was stunned, because I was watching on WDIV here in Detroit, and the talking head anchor guy came on and announced breaking news would following the break.

After commercial break, this huge BREAKING NEWS banner appeared, and then the talking head anchor said what I said he said previously.

However, I couldn't find any BREAKING news on the net. All of it was old (week of Aug 3 - 7). Until I went to the www.NBCOlympics.com web-site itself in the gymanstics section, and read the article I linked to (Posted Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:54 PM ET). It was after the local news ended when this report broke on WDIV. Then they went into the men's volleyball game.

The tone of the article is SO neutral compared to what I heard the announcer state. The contrast is night & day.

Anyways buried in the middle of the NBCOlympics article is this little tid-bit:

The IOC did not give details on what new information prompted it to act now, three days after the gymnastics competition ended.

"With some questions still remaining, we asked the federation to take a closer look," Davies said.

I was bummed that AP has their paws all over this crap.
6 posted on 08/21/2008 11:08:25 PM PDT by raygun
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To: raygun

In IOC code, we have no proof, means we have no guts.


7 posted on 08/21/2008 11:10:37 PM PDT by A6M3
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To: A6M3

Actually, it means the check from the Chinese government cleared.


8 posted on 08/21/2008 11:12:49 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: raygun

haha...

the “documents” are Chinese sports ministry spreadsheets from earlier this year that listed lower ages for the gymnasts. They were removed after a blogger first mentioned it, but another blogger found a CACHED version of the documents and posted them. They are official Chinese Federation documents apparently....

But I doubt the IOC is going to reverse the medals....there was a huge enough uproar over Jaime Sale and her partner at those Olympics where the French and Russians were bribing each other (two golds, one broze)

I cant imagine overturning all those events...they would have to relinquish the team gold, then a bunch of individual medals....


9 posted on 08/21/2008 11:22:43 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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That’s too bad ‘bout the live coverage for you. I get a fair bit of it here. From 1800 to 2000, I catch highlight summary of the day from CBET (Windsor), and from 2000 - 0000 I catch either tape delay (or live) on WDIV (Detroit) & CBET. At 0000 they break for local news on WDIV, and from 0030 to about 0300 it usually is live (on both WDIV & CBET). Then WDIV goes into taped loop for several hours. But CBET broadcasts live until about 0500.

Right now I’m watching Men’s volleyball U.S.A. vs Russian Federtion. That’s live and began at 0035 EDT. SO the breaking news announcement happened right before the volleyball game started.


10 posted on 08/21/2008 11:23:06 PM PDT by raygun
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To: BurbankKarl

How did you find that out?

Man these Chinese are starting to tick me off. First all the product contamination issues. The latest of which being the adultrated heparin base which the FDA has attributed no less than 13 deaths, and perhaps as many as some 60+ (just in the U.S.A.). When they discovered that, over half the heparin supply was removed from the market.

Then the opening ceremony debacle with the fake fireworks CGI’d into the television broadcast and the lip synching Chinese singer girl (because the singer had crooked teeth), and then the “hiring of volunteers” to fill the empty seats at the venues. I seen the expose short where they showed several hundered people getting cheering lessons. Unbelieble. Spectating is an Olympic sport. Who’da thunk?

And now this. Wow.

You don’t want to miss the U.S.A. vs Russian Federation volleyball. Trust me.


11 posted on 08/21/2008 11:39:55 PM PDT by raygun
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To: raygun

It was Bob Costas — I heard it as well.


12 posted on 08/21/2008 11:52:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( VOTE FOR McCAIN 2008! McCainNow.com; LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: raygun; BurbankKarl

You may find more details here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10021343-83.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/sports/olympics/27gymnasts.html?_r=1&sq=&st=nyt&oref=slogin&scp=29&pagewanted=print


13 posted on 08/22/2008 12:53:58 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: raygun; BurbankKarl
And here:

TimesOnline - Hacker uncovers 'proof' that Chinese gymnast is underage

14 posted on 08/22/2008 12:59:40 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: raygun

Oh please! So what if the one girl is still missing one of her baby teeth; the Chinese athletes have ALL been proven to be of age to compete by virtue of their Chinese government issued passports. /s


15 posted on 08/22/2008 2:01:39 AM PDT by South40
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Still missing? Don't you mean still has LOL

Reminds me of the good ol' days of the Soviet Union where they airbrushed people out of existance for being a bad person. Its astonishing the lengths they went to undo people.

Wouldn't it be great if our gymnastics team showed up in 2012 with passports that proved them all to be sextagenarians? It'd be great, they could all show up using walkers and canes and stuff, wearing little frumpy outfits, and curly gray wigs and stuff.

16 posted on 08/22/2008 2:56:23 AM PDT by raygun
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