Posted on 08/22/2008 1:24:51 PM PDT by Dajjal
Maybe it is, but people believe fact check for the most part. It would be pretty stupid for them to say they have touched and photographed the real birth certificate if it doesn’t exist.
Who runs FACTCHECK? Go check it out and see!
No, it’s not going anywhere in the near term, but it’s aim is more political than legal — to sow doubt in the minds of the Super-delegates.
See #16.
BTW, I bet the Dems will send a bucket of roses to whoever gets Osama out of the race. The guy is going to lose big.
That said, there are a lot of interesting issues raised in Berg's Complaint. I would love to see them really investigated by someone competent.
Yes, it is the same guy. He signs his name and address at the end of the link you posted.
are you with the navy NAPs program??
I used to be...I left but kept the name. lol. Obviously I loved the job. Sad to leave.
Factcheck.org has very heavy ties to both Barrack Obama and his bestest bomber buddy weatherman Bill Ayers.
Obama is probably a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia, Canada and (maybe) the US. The question is which nation will he be deported to.
Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania
Love this part:
FactCheck.org's staff, not the Annenberg Center, is responsible for this material. {yeah, right...whatever you say}
FR Threads Referencing Annenberg
I beg to differ; First, this puts a lot of pressure on Obama to come open and clean on his whole citizenship status. Secondly, even if the chances are slim, the stakes are enormous for the Dem Party, and that will make for some head-scratching.
He is a Citizen of the World!
Yes, the Marxist world of “Workers of the World Unite!”
BUT, IF you are a citizen at Birth, I can't possibly see how being jerked around the world as a kid, voluntarily or involuntarily, by mom, dad, step dad, kidnappers, or whoever, can possibly de-citizenize you.
Imagine that your kid is 100% American. your spouse decides to split when kid is 5, goes to Flyspeckia, marries a Flyspeckian -- your kid's not an American any more?? She can never be President?? I doubt that you would think so.
Yeah. It's a great program.
I have a "Youngster" (2nd year Naval Academy) who did the NAPs program.
BUT, IF you are a citizen at Birth, I can't possibly see how being jerked around the world as a kid, voluntarily or involuntarily, by mom, dad, step dad, kidnappers, or whoever, can possibly de-citizenize you.
Imagine that your kid is 100% American. your spouse decides to split when kid is 5, goes to Flyspeckia, marries a Flyspeckian -- your kid's not an American any more?? She can never be President?? I doubt that you would think so.
Goes WITH THE KID -- if that wasn't understood as implied.
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Actually a friend of mine who works at a wire service called be around 9 telling me "YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS!" ...
He told me the below [my email] and I told him I've heard rumor of it already ... Then I told him he needs to spend less time with the NYT and more time reading THE SPOTLIGHT ...
Anyway, he said that it is all anyone is talking about at the National Press Club ...
I wrote him back, a bit harshly, saying that the media was ignoring Berg's lawsuit, and that his friend probably meant the Factcheck thing.
He wrote me back today, correcting me.
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No - my friend at the Press Club was talking about the exact same thing you were: The temporary restraining order out of the PA US District Court ...
He said they were trying to figure out if it is something to report or ignore ...
CNN, acknowledging, though dismissing, the question BHO's birth certificate their take, not mine, on how to handle the potential issue ... Though it was still more than anyone else in the MSM has done ... And it also indicates how the story will be spun if it has to be discussed ...
My goal was just to let you know that the MSM is actively concerned they might have to talk about this ...
I consider my brother a reliable source on this. So, on the word of his friend, we have it that -- although the media have been ignoring the Lawsuit story in public, in private it was "all anyone is talking about" at the National Press Club in Washington, DC, last night.
AND that the media folks are worried that circumstances might force them to report on Philip Berg's Lawsuit.
Incidentally, this is the same brother who told me about Shepard Fairey.
Hmmmm! what is going on here!
From Berg’s Lawsuit!
Wayne Madsen, Journalist with Online Journal as a contributing writer and
published an article on June 9, 2008 stating that a research team went to Mombassa, Kenya,
and located a Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. at a Maternity Hospital,
to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen.
At the time of Obama’s birth in 1961, Kenya was a British Colony. There is a
purported Canadian Birth Certificate, posted on the Internet, in the name of Barack Hussein
Obama, Jr.; however, the date of birth is shown as August 23, 1961.
“I can understand the argument (though it’s not in accordance with current Supreme Court law) that birth in the US + American Citizen Mom (if under a certain age), isn’t enough to make you a citizen.”
You misunderstand the entire case. The question is not whether Obama is a citizen, but whether he fulfills the requirement of a “natural born citizen” ie born-on-American-soil. A citizen and a natural born citizen are two different things. I hope that cleared it up some, I know it’s a bit confusing.
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