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EDITORIAL:Obama Chooses Biden and the Battle for Life is Engaged
Catholic Online ^ | 8/23/08 | Deacon Keith Fournier

Posted on 08/23/2008 6:09:28 AM PDT by tcg

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In choosing Senator Joe Biden, the Obama campaign has guaranteed that the Right to Life will continue to be a preeminent issue in the Presidential campaign of 2008.
1 posted on 08/23/2008 6:09:29 AM PDT by tcg
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If Biden is pro-abortion, then he certainly isn’t a Catholic. He may have been one growing up, but he isn’t one now.


2 posted on 08/23/2008 6:15:13 AM PDT by BaBaStooey ("Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light." Ephesians 5:14)
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To: tcg

I think Obama’s votes in the Illinois Senate on this issue has already made it a preeminent issue. That coupled with his remarks on the subject at Saddleback should be played again and again.


3 posted on 08/23/2008 6:16:50 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: BaBaStooey

You are absolutely right!


4 posted on 08/23/2008 6:17:14 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: tcg

The Killer B’s: Biden and Barack


5 posted on 08/23/2008 6:17:38 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: tcg

Biden’s pro-choice record is flawless—he has received an 100% rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America for three consecutive years, and his record prior to 2003 is also strongly pro-choice.

Another one of those catholics who thumbs his nose at Catholic teaching.


6 posted on 08/23/2008 6:22:27 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: BaBaStooey

“If Biden is pro-abortion, then he certainly isn’t a Catholic. He may have been one growing up, but he isn’t one now.”

He’s a cino.
Just like the Kennedys - Pelosi - Daschle - Guliani - Pataki - and many many others.
We’ve seen his type before and the only catholics who will be fooled will be other cinos who would have voted Obama anyway.

Any catholic who was on the edge and concerned about this particular issue is not going to jump in for Obama over Biden.


7 posted on 08/23/2008 6:27:14 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: JohnLongIsland

Their campaign song: Ebony and Ivory.


8 posted on 08/23/2008 6:29:52 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: BaBaStooey

Yes you are so sooo right. A Catholic cannot be for abortion. Period. Chances are he’s just another politco church-attender. There is no nuance or spinning allowed on the abortion issue or gay marriage. Life starts at conception and marriage is between a man and a woman.


9 posted on 08/23/2008 6:30:22 AM PDT by Mancolicani
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To: BaBaStooey

The Catholic tag is treated as if it were a nationality or racial assignment instead of a religion.


10 posted on 08/23/2008 6:32:16 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: tcg

Archbishop Charles Chaput’s new book “Render unto Caeser” is very clear regarding Catholic responsibility in the voting booth.
Biden has been very clear that his Catholic responsibility is not a priority.


11 posted on 08/23/2008 6:34:20 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm investing in "Pitchfork Futures"!!)
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To: Dr. Ursus

This years donkey theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sssqBjaTzOU


12 posted on 08/23/2008 6:34:20 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: tcg
He is a practicing Roman Catholic Christian.

How can he be a "practicing Roman Catholic Christian" and support abortion? True Christians don't support abortions and I didn't think Catholics did either.

13 posted on 08/23/2008 6:48:13 AM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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The Killer B’s: Biden and Barack

Great title!

14 posted on 08/23/2008 6:50:08 AM PDT by syriacus (They often call me BARRY, but my real name is MISTER SCHMOOZE. [by B.O. + the Faddish Hacks])
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To: tcg

One of my biggest disappointments in this election season is the defection of Doug Kmiec to Obamania. Kmiec is a legal scholar with (until now) good conservative credentials, and I used to have a lot of respect for him. He has completely sold out.


15 posted on 08/23/2008 7:23:33 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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On another thread, a poster pointed out the following:

"We have Christians of every stripe, Catholic and protestant (Methodists, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Evangelical etc.) who consistently vote for pro-abortion politicians."

The following are my observations:

1) Perhaps they do not believe Psalm 139.

2) Perhaps they do not see that their own liberties, as individual citizens, are placed at risk when the liberty of the child in the womb to live is denied by force.

3) Perhaps they do not really think about the implications of the absurdity that one class of citizens (women) are legally protected in a so-called "right" to choose whether another human being lives or dies by the "hand of force."

4) Perhaps they never considered that the claim of the phrase, "endowed by their Creator," in the Founders' Declaration of Independence actually formed the founding principle underlying our Constitution's protections. That principle was succinctly capsulized by Thomas Jefferson: "The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."

What clearer statement can be made on behalf of human liberty?

As late as 196l, John F. Kennedy summed up the same principle:

"The world is different now . . . And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forefathers fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God."

The "life" question for this election should be framed in such a manner that citizens can understand that our heritage of liberty has its basis in that very question, and that the "hand of force" may not necessarily be a totalitarian government's army, or even a terrorist attack.

16 posted on 08/23/2008 7:33:29 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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“He is a practicing Roman Catholic Christian.”

“How can he be a “practicing Roman Catholic Christian” and support abortion?”

He’s not good at it yet? Still trying?


17 posted on 08/23/2008 7:50:47 AM PDT by ottersnot ("No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Biden certainly is a major pro-abort.

However Biden and the rest of the US Senate voted 98-0 in favor of the identical federal version of the Born Alive Protection Act that Obama killed in 2003 in IL.

Even NARAL didn’t object.

And this is the point that has to continue. Obama keeps spinning this trying to confuse and distract the WHY’s of his vote. But when Obama is contrasted against Biden and the unanimous US Senate his spin fails.

Obama supported infanticide.

18 posted on 08/23/2008 10:33:26 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at CpForLife.org)
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19 posted on 08/23/2008 10:50:36 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Abortion and Euthanasia

Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE) Catholic politician who votes for abortion in contradiction to Church teachings. One of American Life League's "Deadly Dozen."

20 posted on 08/23/2008 10:52:28 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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