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To: wayoverontheright; Sal
The ability to withhold the sale of oil and natural gas is over-rated as a weapon. In order to harm your client, you have to refuse to sell it at all, to anyone, which means you are refusing revenues-not good.

You guys are dead wrong.
Russia has cut of oil/energy exports in the dead of winter to East European nations - Ukraine & Belarus and others

Try floating your oil fungiblity theories over there during a winter cutoff

BTW --- Oil is more fungible than natural gas which is also a major Russian export
18 posted on 08/23/2008 5:46:23 PM PDT by dennisw (That Muhammad was a charlatan. Islam is a hoax, an imperialistic ideology, disguised as religion.)
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To: dennisw
If you'll notice I said it's not as convenient as what is already set up, and I know that they did cut off supplies to East European nations and it caused severe hardships.

How long did Russia withhold heating supplies? I'm asking in order to learn 2 things--how long was Russia willing to do without the income or did she sell elsewhere; and did the Eastern Europeans find a way around the problem after a while or have to tough it out for a whole winter?

Natural disasters also disrupt all kinds of supplies. We were without power for a week after an earthquake. Before you jump, I'm not equating the two. My point is that after that happened to us, we bought a generator, laid in specific supplies for a long siege...

I know that individual customers cannot contract for heating supplies apart from what is set up to come into the country, but governments can. Did they try it then? Have they set anything up now?

I'm not trying to challenge you on this, I really want to know because an individual family is pretty much screwed in such a situation, but the leadership of a country can take some action--in an unexpected emergency, the response will certainly not be immediate. OTOH they shouldn't be taken by surprise again.

I would hope some protective preparations have been taken--orders from non-Russian sources for a partial supply. A ship isn't the same as a pipe line and an already set up pipe line has to be supported by continued purchases. But partial shipments--maybe even held in storage for an emergency could make all the difference. If you have that ready, you could buy more while living off the partial till the new shipment comes in.

19 posted on 08/23/2008 6:35:06 PM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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