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Born in the U.S.A.The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
factcheck.org ^ | 8/21/08 | Jess Henig

Posted on 08/24/2008 7:40:05 AM PDT by TheNewPundit

In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

(Excerpt) Read more at factcheck.org ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 3dollarbill; barackobama; billayers; birthcertificate; certifigate; factcheckdotorg; marines; obamafamily
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To: TheNewPundit
There is a reason Obama went to Hawaii recently and that was to find the real birth certificate or one that appears to be legitimate BECAUSE HIS CAMPAIGN had produced a FAKE CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH and passed it off as real. Obama should be held to account for passing off the fake COLB.
21 posted on 08/24/2008 7:53:36 AM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: rlmorel
They don’t really need that fish, though.

Sure gonna wish they had that fish when the day comes that they're in danger of losing to a possibly foreign born president. And it will happen some day.
22 posted on 08/24/2008 7:53:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: TommyDale

It is the forgery, same document as the KOS one, but at a much reduced compression.


23 posted on 08/24/2008 7:53:51 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Cicero

While we are at it, let’s see his proof of Selective Service registration and his baptismal records (he claims that his atheist mother and non-observant muslim fathers raised him as a Christian).


24 posted on 08/24/2008 7:54:23 AM PDT by weegee (The higher taxes that Obama demands of Americans are 'Above my Pay Grade'.)
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To: cripplecreek

Hey, you’re still kickin.


25 posted on 08/24/2008 7:54:55 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TheNewPundit
Even if Obama's Birth Certificate is genuine, what are the ramifications of his citizenship status due to his educational stint in Indonesia? If I understood correctly from reading elsewhere, to attend a Muslim school in Indonesia, it was necessary for him to be an Indonesian citizen. This was in a time when Indonesia had no provision for dual-citizenship, meaning that Obama's American citizenship would have had to have been renounced.

Any thoughts? If this one isn't worth pursuing either, let's put them both to rest at once.

26 posted on 08/24/2008 7:55:28 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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To: TheNewPundit

A clear conflict of interest.

1> FactCheck.org is a nonprofit website that describes its own goal as reducing the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. In its efforts, FactCheck claims to be nonpartisan. It is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania, and is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.

2>Although the records of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge had been at the UIC library since 2002, the school denied requests to review them, saying the donor had not given ownership rights to UIC.

Friday, UIC said it had fulfilled the terms of the gift and plans to make the records available Tuesday. Obama was the first chairman of the group Ayers helped start.


27 posted on 08/24/2008 7:55:35 AM PDT by edzo4 (Vote McCain, Keep Your Change)
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To: pissant

They are an Annenberg offshoot ... dig far enough and you find Axelrod behind factcheck.org ... democrats lie as easily as they breathe.


28 posted on 08/24/2008 7:55:42 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ryan71; All

Actually, cripplecreek has a good point.

While this has never been an issue in the past, it is going to be an issue in the future, no question at all.

Maybe not this election cycle, and maybe not the next, but mark my words, it is going to be a major issue someday. When do we start paying attention to it?

As other posters have said (and I agree) he can be defeated on the issues. But this is something that should be established without a doubt before a candidate should be allowed to participate in the primary process. I am not sure this has been done, but I could be wrong.


29 posted on 08/24/2008 7:55:53 AM PDT by rlmorel (If they can call George "Dubya", we can call Barack "Hussein")
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To: Howie66

He is not fit to serve in this country as dog catcher, much less as POTUS...
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Looks like some of Obama’s staff or DUers set this thread up....nice try to subvert Constitutional law. These liberal hacks should get their facts collected, and realize there is probably a massive fraud being committed upon both the American people, the government and the parties involved.

Check it out. http://obamacrimes.com

This issue is more important than any other aspect of this campaign. The people trying to whitewash this apparent massive fraud, should be more concerned about the importance of our laws, and the future of America in that regard. Every candidate should be made to PROVE THEIR BIRTHRIGHT AND CITIZENSHIP and have it scrutinized -— just like every US citizen has to do when they sign up for Social Security or other government program....


30 posted on 08/24/2008 7:55:55 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: cripplecreek

LOL...I agree with you. I was composing my response to your post when you responded to mine...:)


31 posted on 08/24/2008 7:56:49 AM PDT by rlmorel (If they can call George "Dubya", we can call Barack "Hussein")
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To: cripplecreek
I was a skeptic at first but frankly Obama needs to answer the charges and frankly I couldn’t care less what factcheck thinks.

That makes two (thousands?) of us.

Much like John "The Snake" Kerry, could have put to bed the entire skepticism issue about his military experience and awards by executing a Form 180, Barack ("Peace Be Upon His Middle No Name") Obama could do the same by signing some sort of release allowing anyone access to his birth certificate in Hawaii.

Like Kerry, I suggest that will NOT happen and thus, simply adds to the skeptics who wonder why?

32 posted on 08/24/2008 7:57:15 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: TheNewPundit
Factcheck does not address Barry Soetoro, now known as Barack Hussein Obama, whose citizenship was listed as "Indonesian" and whose religion was listed as "Islam."

Factcheck is bogus.

33 posted on 08/24/2008 7:57:51 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: TheNewPundit

PLEASE, PLEASE TO EVERYONE..... almost a foolproof way to do a search BEFORE YOU POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A quick and dirty search of any and all of FreeRepublic thanks to Google ‘site:’ function.

No more excuses...
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34 posted on 08/24/2008 7:57:56 AM PDT by zimfam007 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: cripplecreek

Right On Target, folks!

Push it to the limit, and then push some more.

True or false—the truth will out—that is the objective here—one way or the other.
Semper Fidelis
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35 posted on 08/24/2008 7:58:00 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: TheNewPundit
I believe there many more important issues to defeat Obama on but how are we supposed to believe some website that post a picture taken through a window. It only adds to the conspiracy theory. This one line pretty much sums it up.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate.

Till then we have to speculate and ask why?

36 posted on 08/24/2008 7:58:25 AM PDT by McGruff (The only government Russia should overthrow is their own.)
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To: TheNewPundit

It is a bit sad that I have to repeat things that are already in the report.
Factcheck can’t have access to the original because Hawaii will never give it to anyone but a family member, as they stated.
The certificate is stamped and signed, and is compliant with the State Dept standards. In other words, it is no different than what you would get if you made the same request from the same state.
Factcheck is not left wing. This is the site that defended and was quoted by Dick Cheney when he was questioned about his deferred compensation from Halliburton four years ago. And it takes about 1 second to see articles they posted in which they are correcting things that Obama has said about McCain. An example here http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/distorting_mccains_remarks.html


37 posted on 08/24/2008 7:58:32 AM PDT by TheNewPundit
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To: TheNewPundit

I love the way that every time there is a new question of the document miraculously Obama provides and even more detailed version of it with all the necessary corrections made to disprove his detractors.

Still haven’t figured out a way to fix that messed up border yet, however I’m sure they are working on it even as we speak...


38 posted on 08/24/2008 7:58:54 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: MHGinTN; All

From the other link:

“FactCheck is affiliated and funded by the Annenberg Project. Former Weatherman terrorist Professor Bill Ayers and Senator Barack Obama worked together at the Annenberg Foundation. Coincidence? Yeah, right!”

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2008/04/re-the-bill-aye.html

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

19 posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 10:20:33 PM by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant — he’s errogant!)
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39 posted on 08/24/2008 7:59:09 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: TheNewPundit

Factcheck.org is an Obama site, anything they say or print is highly suspect. The new COLB they exhibit is also suspect, due to the fact the first COLB they posted on the web has been proven fake. Obama is most likely NOT an American citizen no matter where he was born since he became an indonesian citizen when his family moved there which means his US citizenship was renounced. There are other reasons that he is not qualified or eligible for President and the lawsuit states them quite clearly. If all this is a lie then it will come out.


40 posted on 08/24/2008 8:00:20 AM PDT by calex59
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