Posted on 08/27/2008 6:10:29 PM PDT by flyfree
By John-Henry WestenWASHINGTON, August 27, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The August 24 Meet the Press interview with Nancy Pelosi which has received condemnation from Catholic leaders around the nation is little more than a repeat of Biden's own comments on Meet the Press last year.
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Nancy can’t even have an original STUPID idea!
Plagiarizing a plagiarist?
They have to rationalize somehow and this is the best they can come up with. I would expect it to be similar or the even the same.
The St. Augistine nonsense reminds me of a line from an article in National Review years ago. It was part of an article about trial lawyers, but it’s point is valid here too.
The author paraphrased a defense attorney’s argument as follows: “one expert witness says he’s 99.99 percent sure of ‘X’, and says he’s 99.9999 percent sure of ‘X’, therefore these two so-called experts can’t agree on anything.
Not really. The Democrats have been saying that, not just Pelosi and Biden, for years. If you look back to various talk shows on PBS, I think you will find Mario Cuomo said something like that in the 80s.
Okay, now someone needs to pin Pelosi and Biden down on why, if they agree with Blessed Augustine and Aquinas that ensoulment occurs after 40 days, why they don’t think abortion should be illegal (or at least restricted to triage cases where the choice is the child or the mother) from 40 days after conception onward.
Pelosi is not killing children with her hand, but with her vote. Should the church not come out and say that she is destined for hell? How about those who vote for her and give her these evil powers?
I wonder if her accepting of the biological views of a 5th century Doctor of hte Church extends to male babies receiving their souls earlier than female ones. I think not, consistent with her cafeteria catholic identity.
Joe Biden was awarded an honorary degree at the University of Scranton, a Catholic Jesuit University. Bishops James Clifford Timlin is a supporter of Senators Biden and Casey.
Biden got his start in Scranton!!!!
And while they're puzzling that out, let's ask them why they're setting the opinions of a 4th Century bishop -- no matter how renowned -- over and above the crystal-clear and infallibly enunciated condemnation of abortion by a 20th Century Roman pontiff named John Paul II:
Given such unanimity in the doctrinal and disciplinary tradition of the Church, Paul VI was able to declare that this tradition is unchanged and unchangeable. 72 Therefore, by the authority which Christ conferred upon Peter and his Successors, in communion with the Bishops-who on various occasions have condemned abortion and who in the aforementioned consultation, albeit dispersed throughout the world, have shown unanimous agreement concerning this doctrine-I declare that direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, always constitutes a grave moral disorder, since it is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written Word of God, is transmitted by the Church's Tradition and taught by the ordinary and universal Magisterium. 73No circumstance, no purpose, no law whatsoever can ever make licit an act which is intrinsically illicit, since it is contrary to the Law of God which is written in every human heart, knowable by reason itself, and proclaimed by the Church.
--Evangelium Vitae, No. 62
I’ll leave that to you. As an Orthodox Christian I have no interest in defending the claims of the Papal throne of Rome to moral authority superior to that of bishops in general.
I can certainly object to the misuse of the views of Fathers of the Church. Citing Blessed Augustine’s views on ensoulment, which if accepted only makes abortions before 40 days not homocide, but does not therefore hold them not sinful, as a defense for her party’s demand that abortions be considered legally acceptable (licit, to use the word favored by the Bishop of Rome) under all circumstances at the whim of the mother, is a bizarre misuse of Augustine’s writings.
I thought you two might be interested.
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