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Do nuclear decay rates depend on our distance from the sun?
The Physics Arxiv Blog ^ | August 29th, 2008 | KFC

Posted on 09/02/2008 8:14:57 PM PDT by B-Chan

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To: ETL
However, I've never heard of the heat effect on time, unless they mean due to an increase in kinetic energy?

Eh? Einstein himself explained it:

"How long 5 minutes is depends on whether you are kissing a pretty girl or sitting on a stove!"

101 posted on 09/03/2008 8:19:31 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: dr_lew
The suggestion of a seasonal variation in the fine structure constant is completely cracked. Take it from me.

Yeah! Who ya gonna believe?

The theory, or your own lyin' data!

102 posted on 09/03/2008 8:22:28 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: VanShuyten
Olive oil presses.

Dammit! I went into plastics semiconductors!

103 posted on 09/03/2008 8:26:04 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: null and void
I note that Schrödinger doesn’t look like he’s all there...

How can you tell? :)

104 posted on 09/03/2008 8:28:36 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: UCANSEE2
In the simplest terms, it has to do with the exact amount of ‘matter’ in the universe.

And that the universe is expanding so that distant radiation is doppler shifted so far down in wavelength/energy that we can't even see it.

105 posted on 09/03/2008 8:30:40 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: Kevmo; B-Chan

Naaaahhh,

The real bullet is that he could have become Jimmuh Carter!


106 posted on 09/03/2008 8:52:00 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: valkyry1
If we can/could follow it to the end, there are no particles, and there is no physics. Its all G-d’s (the creator) dream.

That's very Buddhist...

107 posted on 09/03/2008 8:54:36 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: MrB

He’s just about the only one whose coat is a pale shadow...


108 posted on 09/03/2008 8:56:48 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: VanShuyten

Thales.

Thanks. I learned something useful today!


109 posted on 09/03/2008 8:59:29 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I had a feeling you already ‘knew’ what I was talking about.

: )


110 posted on 09/03/2008 10:43:17 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: UCANSEE2

““But I’m not moving closer to the Sun, if that’s what you’re suggesting.

And I’m not moving farther away, either. “


On a nice sunny day, leave your air-conditioned leaving room, and climb up on the roof.

You would be amazed at the increase in temperature!

And that is only a few feet of difference.

(I’m just being a goof!)


111 posted on 09/03/2008 10:57:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: null and void

It’s been said, “When a theorist publishes his results, no one believes them but the theorist. When an experimenter publishes a result, everybody believes it except the experimenter.” (’cuz he knows what can go wrong, you see. )

The data, taken at face value, suggest a seasonal variation in the measured decay rates. One of the suggested explanations was a seasonal variation in the fine structure constant, which governs all E-M interactions, including atomic spectral lines. Variations approaching 0.1% in its value would cause havoc in all kinds of routine measurements, not to mention capricious variation in the familiar properties of matter, which in actuality are exquisitely and reliably constant.

What about spectral lines in the Sun’s atmosphere? What is alpha when you’re ON the Sun. It’s ridiculous!

On a discussion group, I saw a comment that this result would be worth several Nobel prizes, if correct. This understates the case considerably. It would be the end of modern physics as we know it, tantamount to “yarn world” in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ... anything goes!


112 posted on 09/03/2008 3:36:52 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
The data, taken at face value

If you torture the data enough, it will confess.

IMHO, most likely explanation? Measurement error. Some systematic variation in the equipment that is a function of ambient temperature might suffice. Even the old standard meter bar had a slight seasonal variation in length, despite exquisitely careful temperature control.

How did they measure the radiation? Geiger tubes? Do the tubes have a minuscule dimensional change with atmospheric pressure? Seasonally lower barometric readings could cause a very slight change in each tube's capture volume.

On a discussion group, I saw a comment that this result would be worth several Nobel prizes, if correct.

Perhaps. Depending on the explanation, of course.

Still, it would be way kewl if everything we knew about physics is wrong!

113 posted on 09/03/2008 3:57:18 PM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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To: JRandomFreeper

LOL...good post!


114 posted on 08/25/2010 7:20:59 PM PDT by rlmorel (America: Why should a product be deemed a failure if you ignore assembly and operation instructions?)
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To: null and void
"...How long 5 minutes is depends on whether you are kissing a pretty girl or sitting on a stove!..."

Might have to make that my new tagline...

115 posted on 08/25/2010 7:25:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (America: Why should a product be deemed a failure if you ignore assembly and operation instructions?)
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