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Science slows global warming!
American Thinker ^ | September 07, 2008 | James Lewis

Posted on 09/07/2008 12:46:03 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 09/07/2008 12:46:03 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

“sophisticated climate chemistry models have shown that the (Montreal) Protocol has done much more than rescue the planet from sunburn.”

Oh goody.

Can I pay more thaxes?


2 posted on 09/07/2008 12:50:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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Would someone, anyone, ... pleeeaase ... ask The Maverick to consider this?
3 posted on 09/07/2008 1:23:48 AM PDT by plsjr (one of His <>< for Sarahcuda)
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To: neverdem
I created a sophisticated computer model based on information from World War I and II, the Cold War, through today, and I found that if I hadn't blown my nose three times on Jan 28, 1977, we would have had over 1,352 nuclear bombs detonated around the world, with three accidentally detonating within their silos without having been fully launched.

My model was unable to determine whose nuclear missiles had mistakenly gone off. However, Nature is reviewing my paper on the matter and I expect it will be a major news article in two months, once published.

4 posted on 09/07/2008 2:08:29 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (1 conservative = 5 RINOs. You can expect 4 out of 5 RINOs to bolt to the liberal side on any vote.)
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To: neverdem

Question.
“ extrapolated the chlorine numbers from fifty years ago, before satellites were available to measure that stuff.”
Was there abdo-lutely no way of making those measurements in the 1960s?


5 posted on 09/07/2008 3:06:48 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: ConservativeMind
Did you use the same tissue three times or a fresh one for each blow?

The difference could drastically change your results.

My model shows that if you used a fresh tissue for each blow the earth would have been deforested and we would be all swimming is mucous.

6 posted on 09/07/2008 3:13:24 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Was there abdo-lutely no way of making those measurements in the 1960s?

Weather balloons could take very high altitude air samples.

But you must remember that despite what the modelers assume the atmosphere is not a homogeneous mixture and sampling methods, efficiencies of detection and numbers of samples taken are drastically different 50 years hence.

7 posted on 09/07/2008 3:20:08 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: neverdem
I just bought a new Suburban, so everyone can relax.

The glaciers have been put off another 25 years.

8 posted on 09/07/2008 3:22:02 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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“drastically different 50 years hence.”
There’s no question about that. I was just trying to figure out how they arrived at their figures for 1960s. It seems that whenever you see anything about weather balloons, they’re always being released in fairly unpopulated areas. I would think one wouldn’t want to release them near airline routes, etc. So, considering that. their figures might be extremely low. A higher figure would show a much slower than predicted rise in atmospheric chlorine, ozone, whatever!


9 posted on 09/07/2008 3:30:19 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

The central planners in the USSR used those types of models to allow Khruschov to say that they would ‘bury us’ economically.

Of course, Democrat economists readily agreed that, yes, that’s what the models showd so we had to change.

Of course, there’s not USSR anymore.


10 posted on 09/07/2008 5:18:20 AM PDT by sobieski (L)
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To: neverdem
I surfed onto a Discovery Channel show last week and at first I thought it was a joke. It wasn't ...
"Wrapping Greenland - Dr. Jason Box, a glaciologist from Ohio State University, is on a mission to prevent glaciers from melting by covering them with blankets that will reflect the powerful rays of the sun."
After reading the descriptions of a few more shows listed on their website, it's obvious they need to change their name to The Chicken Little Channel:
11 posted on 09/07/2008 5:21:46 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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44 years ago, I worked in the library of American Appraisal. They had just received a huge book of beautiful maps of all sorts from Lester Brown, founder of World Watch.

http://www.earth-policy.org/About/Lester_bio.htm

These maps showed that we would run out EVERYTHING within 10 years, including arable soil. I was 21 and pregnant. Those maps terrified me.

Well, here we are today and we still have plenty of everything. When the Ozone Hole hysteria hit the media, my husband and I recalled (and you can check this) that National Geographic had shown the ozone hole in the IGY issue of January 1957. It was described as a natural phenomena. Of course, we all know it has closed significantly in recent years and it is doubtful the Montreal Protocol had a thing to do with it.

I keep wondering just how many erroneous valuations were made by American Appraisal of the value of things like gravel pits, metal mines, woodlands, et al, based on those maps and predictions? We have had many booms and busts in every commodity class since 1964. I also wonder how long it took to create those maps before computers, scanners and printers? The book, which took up an entire library table when opened, surely took at least two years to produce,back then, if not more.

Why can't the hysterics come up with anything new? Same old game plan, same old fabrications, same old agenda.

12 posted on 09/07/2008 7:12:49 AM PDT by reformedliberal (God bless Saracuda America, speaking truth to power.)
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Why can't the hysterics come up with anything new? Same old game plan, same old fabrications, same old agenda.
They don't need to. They have at least one entire generation that's now been brainwashed by public schools. Throw in a willing MSM along with The Discovery Channel, The National Geographic Channel (they're just as bad if not worse), etc., plus all the kook websites out there, and their propaganda gets soaked up like a sponge.
13 posted on 09/07/2008 7:34:17 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: neverdem

Heard this garbage at a green buildings conference earlier this year. Several people got up and walked out on the *keynote* speaker.


14 posted on 09/07/2008 8:21:20 AM PDT by sionnsar (Obama?Bye-den!|Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)| The New WSJ Magazine is disgusting)
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15 posted on 09/07/2008 11:05:27 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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High altitude samples were taken then, but not for what you think of as open-desk research in general studies. Most were done in odd locations at classified times and classified elevations. And the samples they were taking were very specialized, not a “let's sample everything everywhere and see what we get in trace gasses over a wide area over a long period of time for weather research in 2008.”

The high altitude weather balloons sampling the 50’s and 60’s were almost all done by (or for) the DOD nuclear testing programs, and to test for enemy nuclear weapon explosions. To see what we were releasing (and how to cover it up, clean it up) and what they were releasing - to see how powerful their bombs were and how well we could detect bomb blasts.

Very, very little was openly released then (particularly then) and now? If you get data, how relevant it is (in the hands of today's propagandists?

16 posted on 09/07/2008 11:16:27 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: BenLurkin
Can I pay more thaxes?

I hate thaxes. April fiftheenth is the worsth day of the year.

17 posted on 09/07/2008 4:05:55 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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Ah, the joys of modeling...


18 posted on 09/07/2008 4:06:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thilly of me.


19 posted on 09/07/2008 4:27:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

20 posted on 09/07/2008 7:00:32 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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