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To: BatGuano
Basically they have built a house of cards with derivatives and, with the slump in real estate values, we are in for a rough ride

Actually the problem is that under the structure we have set up real estate values are determined by the amount of credit available to fund real estate. The unwinding of leverage is what is producing the collapse in real estate values which is causing further unwinding of leveraged debt and so on.

It started with a bunch of ivy leaguers on wall street and in the Fed thinking they were a lot smarter than everyone else and knew things that the rest of us didn't. As Ronaldus Magnus pointed out about liberals, they know a lot of things that just aren't so.

130 posted on 09/07/2008 7:03:16 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Real Estate has always been a solid, long term investment not the get rich quick business it became a few years ago. I agree that credit available determines value somewhat. Lenders, appraisers, brokers, and sellers all wanted to maximize the flow of money. Speculators licked their chops and dove into the market with gusto. We saw a 32% spike in home prices here in Florida..what would have taken ten years, in a little over a year. The result is short sales, foreclosures and bankruptcy for those who have to move or whose financial situation has changed by sickness, loss of job or jobs etc. A structure that allows one to buy a house with only a small fraction of the cost invested (all leverage) is certainly going to collapse.


144 posted on 09/08/2008 8:24:55 AM PDT by BatGuano (Go John and Sarah!)
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To: AndyJackson
“It started with a bunch of ivy leaguers on wall street and in the Fed thinking they were a lot smarter than everyone else “
>>>>>>>>...........
bingo and they where..Gorelick and the heads of F&F for the last decade or more have walked away with millions $$$
Wall st has golden parachutes by the hundreds where the insiders got paid..now the stock holders get the bill and worst yet the tax payer..
It is obvious they were a lot smarter on wall street and in government..they will not pay a cent back.
145 posted on 09/08/2008 9:24:13 AM PDT by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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