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To: pissant

I thought after 25 years, a song becomes part of the “public domain”.


2 posted on 09/07/2008 12:52:39 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Bobkk47
I thought after 25 years, a song becomes part of the “public domain”.

More like 78 years. That's why the Beatles catalog is worth so much.

27 posted on 09/07/2008 1:03:07 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (No longer holding my nose to vote - McCain/Palin 2008!)
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To: Bobkk47

Where did you hear that?! The music is owned by whoever owns the license. People can purchase permission from the license owner to use the music for specific events or license a large catalog of music for various uses, such as a TV station playing popular music as a bumper. Truthfully, if Ann and Nancy no longer own the license to their lyrics, they really have no say in who plays it, if that party paid the license fee to ASCAP or whomever owns the music.


29 posted on 09/07/2008 1:07:28 PM PDT by rabidralph (She shoots, she scores!)
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To: Bobkk47
I thought after 25 years, a song becomes part of the “public domain”.

Long ago, it did. But now, copyrights have been extended every time that Disney is in danger of losing their copyright on Mickey Mouse.

35 posted on 09/07/2008 1:11:27 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
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To: Bobkk47
I thought after 25 years, a song becomes part of the “public domain”.

If that were true then we should be able to download Beatles and Rolling Stones from free web sites.

45 posted on 09/07/2008 1:18:16 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bobkk47

I don’t know the timetable from a legal point a view, but there’s also a difference between the song and the performance.

20 difference singers/groups can record the same song, and each version has it’s own protections aside from the copyright on the original song. So Heart’s rendition would be distinct from the song (even though the writer and the group are the same).

I know for books in certain countries, the copyright lasts for 50 years after the authors death. My favorite author started writing in 1900 and died in 1975, so his original published works will enjoy copyright protection in some jurisdictions until 2025 — 125 years after publication!


76 posted on 09/07/2008 1:56:41 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: Bobkk47

50 years after the author is dead I think.


95 posted on 09/07/2008 2:22:54 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affimative Action Candidate)
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To: Bobkk47
I thought after 25 years, a song becomes part of the “public domain”.

I don't think so. My understanding is that the owners of music published after 1922 own the rights indefinitely. You have to buy the rights or ask (and receive) permission to use a song for anything commercial.

99 posted on 09/07/2008 2:32:02 PM PDT by LiberConservative (Sarah Palin makes me tingly.)
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To: Bobkk47

Think again. Intellectual property law has been corrupted on behalf of software houses and publishers so that things don’t pass into the public domain even 30 plus years after the death of the author and 70 plus year after publication: rights to Robert Frost’s (d. 1968) “Fire and Ice”, published in 1928, is still controlled by Henry Holt & Co. so that the goth band Unto Ashes couldn’t get the rights to record it as song lyrics.

Copyright and patent law have become impediments to artistic and scientific creativity, rather than supports: they no longer reserve exclusive rights to authors and inventors for a limited term. Instead the reserve exclusive rights to companies that buy the rights from the actual creative individuals for functionally unlimited terms (anything important has a copyright or patent about the expire, if the holder has a fat enough lobbying budget, Congress will oblige and create a means for the copyright or patent to be extended).


108 posted on 09/07/2008 3:30:18 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (For real change stop electing lawyers: Fighter-Pilot/Hockey-Mom '08.)
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To: Bobkk47
I thought after 25 years, a song becomes part of the “public domain”.

I'm no lawyer, but I think copyrights are much longer now.
This general trend to extending the copyright "lifetime"
got rolling when Charles Dickens got p-ssed over American publishers
printing/selling copies of his works...with no $$$ going to Dickens.

I don't know if it works under a different system but IIRC
somehow the film studio that did "It's A Wonderful Life" somehow
let their rights to the film lapse...that's why it got revived
by Christmas-time showings on many stations.
But I believe the film studio (or it's successor organization)
was able to re-establish rights.
And that's why you only see it on NBC these days.

I welcome more informed posters to correct any goofs I've made
on this topic.
114 posted on 09/07/2008 7:29:47 PM PDT by VOA
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