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With all the economic, scandal and foreign policy troubles of this administration in much of the public's mind, ANY democrat should be at least 10-15 percentage points ahead. The fact that the two campaigns are virtually tied, and truth be told, since they sample heavily towards democrats, McCain is probably actually leading in reality, this shows how weak a candidate Obama really is. Does anyone here think that Hillary & McCain would be tied at this point had she been nominated?
1 posted on 09/07/2008 2:48:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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First let me say this: Ruh Roh Shaggy...

If Hillary was the nominee, then I think McCain would be losing...
2 posted on 09/07/2008 2:50:12 PM PDT by KevinDavis (If Obama can't handle a town hall debate, then he can't handle the job of being President.)
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Obama needs to be ahead by 15% the day before elction day ...


3 posted on 09/07/2008 2:50:27 PM PDT by Tarpon (Three things matter when selecting a President - character, character and character.)
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The MSM will start grasping for any straws they can in these polls. Now they are down to polls of polls. Agree hillary would probably be ahead. But I don’t think McCain/Palin just rallied the base either.


4 posted on 09/07/2008 2:50:45 PM PDT by pangaea6
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It is just amazing to me that anyone is planning on voting for him.


5 posted on 09/07/2008 2:51:01 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (PALIN-MANIA ... I haz it!)
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MSMspeak for its really gone! That guy is no longer in the lead whatever CNN might seek to claim.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 09/07/2008 2:53:36 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I was upset about the latest hit piece on Sarah Palin that appeared on the MSNBC homepage - eight screens telling anecdotes about the time she carried the baby in her arms in an official car instead of using the baby's car seat, about copying her husband with an email about her work situation - I'm telling you, it was sickening.
9 posted on 09/07/2008 2:56:02 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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13 posted on 09/07/2008 3:00:47 PM PDT by pollwatcher (Palin was put on this earth to do two things: kill caribou and kick butt. She's all out of caribou.")
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That Diageo/Hotline has been an outlier poll lately.


15 posted on 09/07/2008 3:01:26 PM PDT by flyfree (Biden is no Palin and Obama is no McCain)
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Diageo/Hotline (September 2-4)

I never heard of this one. Anybody knows their track records?

18 posted on 09/07/2008 3:10:58 PM PDT by paudio (Nobody cried 'racism' when Swann, Blackwell, and Steele lost to white guys in 2006)
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Also, the CBS poll should be thrown out because some of the polling took place before Palin and McCain spoke. The three most recent polls show a Rasmussen tie, Zogby shows McCain ahead by four points (and it, it seems, includes Barr and Nader), and Gallup shows McCain with a three point lead (including, it seems, Barr and Nader).
19 posted on 09/07/2008 3:13:47 PM PDT by andymin
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And the Zerobama is TOAST!


20 posted on 09/07/2008 3:14:48 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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21 posted on 09/07/2008 3:18:26 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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"Does anyone here think that Hillary & McCain would be tied at this point had she been nominated?"

Shhhh...

Don't give them ideas.

"October Surprise" Headline: "'Sick' Biden Drops Out--- Hillary New VP Candidate!"

23 posted on 09/07/2008 3:43:39 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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"All of the surveys included in our national polling average were conducted at least in part during the Republican Convention,"

This statement nullifies any speculation regarding a "bounce." This poll report can't address the effect of events take took place at the RNC, since the polls occurred before the convention was completed.

It's bogus.

27 posted on 09/07/2008 4:13:22 PM PDT by Rudder
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I see CNN stays does not utilize Rasmussen’s results. Then again, screw CNN, I only go to realclearpolitics.com


33 posted on 09/07/2008 4:52:57 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More)
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The only reason Obama is ahead here is because one of the polls (Hotline) they are using has Obama up by 6, but was taken during the convention before the Palin effect took hold.


36 posted on 09/07/2008 5:26:04 PM PDT by CA Conservative
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