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To: RadioCirca1970
MS 13 is not a street gang.

Yes it is. They are organized, deal drugs, kill, rob, intimidate, and shoot people etc.

Just like any other common street gang. Their MOs are exactly the same as the others.

20 posted on 09/09/2008 4:58:46 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

No, it is a terrorist organization, read the FTO standards for a Terror Group, MS13 meets every threshold.

Legal Criteria for Designation under Section 219 of the INA as amended

1. It must be a foreign organization.
2. The organization must engage in terrorist activity, as defined in section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the INA (8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)),* or terrorism, as defined in section 140(d)(2) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 1988 and 1989 (22 U.S.C. § 2656f(d)(2)),** or retain the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism.
3. The organization’s terrorist activity or terrorism must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or the economic interests) of the United States.

Which takes us over to Section 212

* Section 212(a)(3)(B) of the INA defines “terrorist activity” to mean: “any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed (or which, if committed in the United States, would be unlawful under the laws of the United States or any State) and which involves any of the following:

(I) The highjacking or sabotage of any conveyance (including an aircraft, vessel, or vehicle).

(II) The seizing or detaining, and threatening to kill, injure, or continue to detain, another individual in order to compel a third person (including a governmental organization) to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the individual seized or detained.

(III) A violent attack upon an internationally protected person (as defined in section 1116(b)(4) of title 18, United States Code) or upon the liberty of such a person.

(IV) An assassination.

(V) The use of any—

(a) biological agent, chemical agent, or nuclear weapon or device, or

(b) explosive, firearm, or other weapon or dangerous device (other than for mere personal monetary gain), with intent to endanger, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals or to cause substantial damage to property.

(VI) A threat, attempt, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing.”

Bottom line, they meet the threshold as a terror group, not JUST A STREET gang...they are an army. An occupying Army.

more here:

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/37191.htm


54 posted on 09/09/2008 8:15:39 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970 (Welcome to the Terror Dome....)
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