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Sheriff's Department returns seized guns
Grand Junction Sentinel ^ | 9/10/09 | GARY HARMON

Posted on 09/10/2008 10:28:44 AM PDT by GSWarrior

A Fruitvale man whose guns were returned to him Tuesday wants a court to invalidate the search warrant under which they were taken 10 months ago.

Bill Martin, owner of A-1 Repossessions, also wants about $50,000 of his legal bills paid.

Martin watched from above, about 75 yards away, on the Riverside Parkway walkway Tuesday morning as Mesa County Sheriff’s Department officials transferred the weapons from one truck to another truck that he hired to transport the weapons.

Martin’s wife, Shelley, and a gunsmith who is familiar with the weapons oversaw the transfer, which took place inside the gated employee parking lot, an area surrounded by chain-link fence.

Martin, who relinquished his ownership of the guns to his wife, was prohibited from overseeing the exchange himself.

Martin’s weapons were confiscated last November when SWAT team members accompanied by federal agents raided his home and business and emptied a fortified cellar of more than 150 weapons and more than 30,000 rounds of ammunition.

Authorities seized the weapons, saying Martin was prohibited from owning them because he was a felon, having been convicted of vehicular assault in 1991.

Colorado law in July 1994 prohibited all felons from owning firearms. Martin contends that his civil rights were restored when he completed a sentence in 1993.

Applying the 1994 law to him retroactively is unconstitutional, Martin contends.

“Anyone who thinks that all felons can’t own guns doesn’t know his butt from a sugar bowl,” Martin said.

Local and federal prosecutors declined to pursue charges against him for the weapons possession.

Mesa County District Attorney Pete Hautzinger said he and Sheriff Stan Hilkey declined to prosecute Martin because the 1994 law obviously didn’t apply to him.

Martin, however, could be prosecuted under the 1994 statute should he possess another firearm. He is now on notice that the state law applies to him, Hautzinger said.

“I think it’s very clear under Colorado law,” he said.

Martin is seeking a hearing before the Colorado Court of Appeals in hopes of invalidating the original search warrant and winning an order for attorney fees, he said.

In the meantime, he said he is unsure of the condition of the firearms, ammunition and other items taken from his home.

He was never provided with a receipt or an inventory of the weapons.

Martin said he will know whether a weapon wasn’t returned because each one had its own place and peg on the walls of his gun locker.

The gunsmith hired to inspect each weapon transferred will make sure each piece was returned in good condition and that there had been no tampering with any of them.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; colorado; felonrights; govwatch; guncontrol; heller; secondamendment; seizedguns
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1 posted on 09/10/2008 10:28:44 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

“I fear the government that fears my guns”


2 posted on 09/10/2008 10:33:47 AM PDT by PeterFinn ("I will stand with the Muslims" - Barack Hussein Obama p. 261 "Audacity of Hope")
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To: GSWarrior
SWAT team members accompanied by federal agents

Curious. If it was a state law he supposedly violated, why were the Feds involved?

3 posted on 09/10/2008 10:35:11 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: GSWarrior
The gunsmith hired to inspect each weapon transferred will make sure each piece was returned in good condition and that there had been no tampering with any of them.

This is the smartest thing he could possibly have done.

I wouldn't put it past the LEOs to convert one or more of the stolen weapons to full auto and then come back at him later with another raid and send him to prison after making them look bad.


4 posted on 09/10/2008 10:37:42 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: GSWarrior

This was a couple streets over from my parents house. I wonder when the door to door seizures of all firearms will start......prolly during the first 180 days of an Obama/Biden presidency.


5 posted on 09/10/2008 10:39:30 AM PDT by killermedic (Git some, baby)
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To: GSWarrior

What is the law regarding felons being in homes where guns are present? Owner or not?


6 posted on 09/10/2008 10:51:32 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: GSWarrior

What is the law regarding felons being in homes where guns are present? Owner or not?


7 posted on 09/10/2008 10:51:42 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: killermedic

[i]This was a couple streets over from my parents house. I wonder when the door to door seizures of all firearms will start......prolly during the first 180 days of an Obama/Biden presidency.[/i]

Same day the Second American Civil War starts.


8 posted on 09/10/2008 10:54:03 AM PDT by Lazarus Starr
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Dont think for one moment that McCain will not try to seize your guns, too... Anyone so open borders and pro-illegal thinks “global” first instead of America


9 posted on 09/10/2008 11:10:47 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Unfortunately, McCain is still a liberal...)
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To: VeniVidiVici
"...Curious. If it was a state law he supposedly violated, why were the Feds involved?..."

Because there's nothing quite so ardent as an ATF Agent with a hard-on for they consider a "gun queer".

Way back, when dirt was still new, and about 100lbs ago, I went to SRT training with an ATF guy who made a point of asking each of us how many guns we owned, and then calling each of us who owned more than 1 firearm, "gun queers".

Yet he was the only one who felt the need to carry a gun everywhere, and felt he "had to" sleep with it at arm's reach in a building full of SWAT officers.

I finally decided he was simply a city boy and just didn't know any better. Sure was a prick though.
10 posted on 09/10/2008 11:19:08 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Technically, we are all Republicans!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
SWAT team members accompanied by federal agents

Curious. If it was a state law he supposedly violated, why were the Feds involved?

Because circus monkeys need their handlers.

11 posted on 09/10/2008 11:29:20 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (McCain/Palin/America 2008 vs Obama/Biden/Media 2008 ...you decide.)
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To: conservativeharleyguy
then calling each of us who owned more than 1 firearm, "gun queers".

You should have reported him for sexual harrassment.

And the correct response to an idiot like this is "None of your damned business, baby killer."

L

12 posted on 09/10/2008 11:35:42 AM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Dont think for one moment that McCain will not try to seize your guns, too... Anyone so open borders and pro-illegal thinks “global” first instead of America

Given the alternative, I guess we'll find out.

13 posted on 09/10/2008 11:36:32 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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“Anyone who thinks that all felons can’t own guns doesn’t know his butt from a sugar bowl,” Martin said.

I like his attitude.

14 posted on 09/10/2008 11:44:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: VeniVidiVici
The reason ATF was there, is that they investigate and monitor all Class 3 federal firearms license holders. Usually, if the locals or state police conduct a raid at a gun shop, the ATF will be there to assume federal jurisdiction on any license issue.

I also agree that they get a real kick out of being seen at raids. They are not the usual primary law enforcement agency during the investigation, but they sure like to get their faces on the TV.

15 posted on 09/10/2008 11:49:43 AM PDT by TheBlueMax ("Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed Nomini Tuo da gloriam")
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
I wouldn't put it past the LEOs to convert one or more of the stolen weapons to full auto and then come back at him later with another raid and send him to prison after making them look bad.

Or worse, make a few of them machineguns on the sly and call F Troop to come in and burn his house down.

16 posted on 09/10/2008 11:55:34 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: Lurker

Yeah, the training was just a few months before the ATF’s finest hour. Since we were in West Texas (Amarillo), and he was a localy assigned agent, I’m sure he was at Waco. Never saw him again, but if I do, I’ll have to ask him how many kids he killed.


17 posted on 09/10/2008 11:56:56 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Technically, we are all Republicans!)
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To: Centurion2000

Either one is well within the realm of high probability considering the recent history of law enforcement abuses chronicled here and elsewhere.

I’m glad this guy had the good sense to make the announcement he would be having the weapons checked public, so the cops and media would be on notice he was expecting shenanigans.


18 posted on 09/10/2008 3:23:17 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: killermedic
I wonder when the door to door seizures of all firearms will start......prolly during the first 180 days of an Obama/Biden presidency.

Don't worry - they'll stop pretty shortly after they start.

19 posted on 09/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (I have Zero Tolerance for Zero Tolerance policies.)
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To: Hardastarboard
Don't worry - they'll stop pretty shortly after they start.

Wars begin when both sides think they can win.

Best regards,

20 posted on 09/10/2008 5:22:12 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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