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The Economy: Best- and Worst-Case Scenarios
Business Week ^ | 09/10/08 | Peter Coy

Posted on 9/11/2008, 5:26:03 AM by TigerLikesRooster

The Economy: Best- and Worst-Case Scenarios

Will the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac bailout work? It pays to imagine the possibilities

by Peter Coy

O.K., we've finally wrapped our minds around the impossible: On Sunday, Sept. 7, in the name of preventing a financial meltdown, the conservative Bush Administration announced that it was seizing control of two of the nation's biggest and highest-rated (until recently) financial institutions, the mortgage giants Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE). In short, pigs can fly, and hell really can freeze over. So maybe it's time to expand our sense of the possible and ask what other shockers are in store. Will the 13-month-old credit crunch get even worse and drag down the entire global economy? Or are punch-drunk Americans due for an even bigger shock, namely some good news for a change?

The financial markets are grappling with just those issues—and gyrating between euphoria and panic. Stocks climbed on Sept. 8, the first trading day after Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. announced that he was placing Fannie and Freddie under federal conservatorship. The Standard & Poor's 500-stock index rose 2%. But the next day, fears that venerable investment bank Lehman Brothers (LEH) might go under dragged the S&P 500 down 3.4%.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; economy; fanniemae; freddiemac; govwatch

1 posted on 9/11/2008, 5:26:03 AM by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 9/11/2008, 5:26:36 AM by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No offense, but articles like this drive me nuts.

“The economy will either a) soar or b) crash so HEDGE YOUR BETS.”

Basically, they are saying nothing, predicting nothing and advising nothing. HOW THE HELL do I hedge my bets? Put myself in position to be only 1/2 ruined by losing half my life savings?

They article has me nailed, though. They talk of everyone working off a worst-case strategy. That is how I feel. My strategy is to stay safe, don’t lose money. If I lose opportunities, there will always be more. If I lose money, I have to start over. No thanks.

I would much rather miss buying in at a bargain than catch a falling knife. But this article certainly doesn’t do a damn thing to inform or advise me toward a future course of action.

“Maybe it will, and maybe it won’t, and maybe we just can’t tell.”

Not the best article you’ve posted...


3 posted on 9/11/2008, 5:49:26 AM by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"You've got to reinflate values in the housing market. I don't know how you do that."

Easy credit by the Fed and Treasury jumping on the band wagon simply makes one element of buying a home less expensive. What needs to be done is make people want to buy a home again. One of the huge selling points to home ownership is wealth formation, especially for younger workers. Now it appears that homes don't hold wealth. There are tons of things the Congress can do via the IRS code to make home ownership worthwhile again. Cheap funds is like pushing on a string. Giving buyers a reason to buy is pulling on the string...it actually gets something done.

4 posted on 9/11/2008, 5:54:24 AM by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
"Give me a one-handed economist!"

-- Supposdly said by a frustrated President Truman.

5 posted on 9/11/2008, 5:57:22 AM by Ken H
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Well, I find this kind of article instructive not because it presents a workable solution, but the state of mind in finance community. It is a gauge by which we can figure out how bad things really are.

They rarely talk straight about the problem. However, you can glean their state of mind from what kind of garbled message they churn out in publication.

To me, this article indicates that we are close to the huge disaster.

6 posted on 9/11/2008, 6:05:41 AM by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
If I lose opportunities, there will always be more. If I lose money, I have to start over. No thanks.

That's about the prevailing tune. Lots of investors are sitting on the sidelines waiting for the national sanity to be restored.

This is what happens when corruption becomes institutionalized -- it eats right to the core of every branch of society:     business, government, academia, markets, religious organizations, politics, the media, etc., etc.

Rational people sense the damage and the danger, and that is precisely why they are instinctively drawn to an anti-corruption leader such as Sarah Palin, at this particular time in history.

7 posted on 9/11/2008, 6:48:01 AM by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: econjack
How about an affordable interest rate coupled with tax credits or incentives for early pay off of principal? could someone accomplish this with whats available now?
8 posted on 9/11/2008, 6:53:21 AM by 1FreeAmerican
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Well, when that chubby faced dame who hawks Amica Insurance stops showing up on my tv every five minutes or so, that will be a sure sign the apocalypse is upon us.


9 posted on 9/11/2008, 7:14:53 AM by djf (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around...)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Hedge your bets?

Buy gold, or something else of intrinsic worth... beachfront houses (or a hotel) in Costa Rica maybe.


10 posted on 9/11/2008, 10:20:20 AM by ovrtaxt (I <3 my PitBull. Sic em girl!!)
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To: econjack
"I've sat in open houses, and you just can't get people to make an offer," says Edward Cudahy Spalding, a real estate broker in Fort Lauderdale. "You've got to reinflate values in the housing market. I don't know how you do that." Reinflate values? You can do that by devaluing the dollar, which is what this boneheaded takeover will eventually accomplish.

These banks should be allowed to fail. Housing prices will drop for another year or so to where they should have been all along, when market determines what's a good value. Yes, blood will run in the streets, but oh well. Money was lent that never should have been, someone has to pay it back. These pinhead bankers are a good start.

This is fascism, nationalization of private industry. Unbelievable. The only real beneficiaries of the takeover are the holders of Fannie and Freddie securities, who are bailed out of their bad investment choices, says Robert I. Kessler, CEO of Kessler Cos., a Denver investment firm. Says Kessler: "It's a great thing for the big banks. I don't see any benefit whatsoever to consumers."

11 posted on 9/11/2008, 10:31:43 AM by ovrtaxt (I <3 my PitBull. Sic em girl!!)
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To: econjack
One of the huge selling points to home ownership is wealth formation, especially for younger workers.

Bravo Sierra. Young people should be paying off any high interest loans they have and setting up retirement accounts and savings. A lot of young people don't have their careers established and are going to be moving around quite a bit. Why have the home ownership monkey on your back?

12 posted on 9/11/2008, 11:23:28 AM by EVO X
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To: TigerLikesRooster
When it boils down to the choice between euphoria and disaster, disaster usually wins.

Bubbles, bubbles, bubbles...

13 posted on 9/11/2008, 1:36:54 PM by Gritty (Politicians are the only people who create problems and then campaign against them-Charley Reese)
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To: Black Birch
Young people should be paying off any high interest loans they have and setting up retirement accounts and savings.

If people should be doing this, why aren't they? High interest rate loans are usually associated with consumer spending on consumption items, not investments. It seems they are spending their way into trouble, not investing in long term assets (e.g., a home), IRA's or savings accounts. You can hardly blame people for not having savings accounts right now since most pay a negative real interest rate.

14 posted on 9/11/2008, 2:04:59 PM by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Before Freddie and Fannie were bailed out, I would have said put your money in a fund based on US treasuries - Vanguard has such a fund.

Now, I'm like you. I don't know. I'm waiting - and while I'm waiting I'm losing money.

15 posted on 9/11/2008, 4:04:08 PM by GOPJ (The first dude's fresh authenticity trumps Maher's bored old cynicism. Maher's hate is showing..)
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To: econjack
If people should be doing this, why aren't they?

Some can't because they got suckered into buying a house they couldn't afford.

16 posted on 9/11/2008, 7:04:05 PM by EVO X
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