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Bob loves repeating Democratic talking points, doesn't he?
1 posted on 09/10/2008 11:57:31 PM PDT by Publius804
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Bob Beckel is hallucinating as usual. Walter Mondale is his gift to America. I don't think he understands Sarah Palin is a force of nature, not just a political phenomenon. She's the real deal!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 09/10/2008 11:59:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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beckel. no need to read any further than that. he is the hack of hacks.


3 posted on 09/11/2008 12:00:01 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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But Obama was put on the shelf earlier than she was, and is less interesting. No matter what, Pain will still be fresher in November than Obama.


4 posted on 09/11/2008 12:00:28 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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what is new and surprising quickly becomes over exposed resulting in a short shelf life. The freshness goes away quickly.

Don't know if you've noticed this or not, but lately, Barack has that "not-so-fresh" feeling.

You want to 'splain how Obama's going to get back to Messiah status when he and his allies have spent two solid weeks trashing almost every demographic group outside of Ivy League Elitists?
5 posted on 09/11/2008 12:02:56 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Jesse Jackson talks about neutering Obama, but Sarah Palin actually delivers.)
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"The freshness goes away quickly. So it will be shortly for Ms. Palin. She has had the best week in this campaign she will have and the only direction now is down. "

Absolutely spot on, Bob- You got all that Barry? You take that to the bank now. Perfect analysis, winning strategy- hang in there!

6 posted on 09/11/2008 12:03:31 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Palin/McCain 08- So let it be written, So let it be done!)
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Is Bob Beckel Bob Shrums illegitimate child?


8 posted on 09/11/2008 12:07:15 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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" Bob loves repeating Democratic talking points bile, horse dung, doesn't he? "
10 posted on 09/11/2008 12:08:41 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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Nice try Bob...now go get a drink and a hooker.........


11 posted on 09/11/2008 12:09:17 AM PDT by rrrod
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Oh, let Beckel rant all he wants. The more ridiculous he argues, the more it shows his fear that the Republicans outsmarted his boy Obama, and they have nothing to show for it except souvenirs from Obama’s last sermon in Berlin.


12 posted on 09/11/2008 12:09:28 AM PDT by max americana
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“Palin Doesn’t Matter...”, which is why I’m saying that, “Palin Doesn’t Matter...”, because, and let me make myself clear, “Palin Doesn’t Matter...” Oh, and did I tell you that, “Palin Doesn’t Matter...?” Well, “Palin Doesn’t Matter...”

Yea, Bob...we know she doesn’t matter, which is why you took the time to write about the fact that, “Palin Doesn’t Matter...”

Bob, what’s the matter?


13 posted on 09/11/2008 12:09:30 AM PDT by This Just In
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This is pretty much par for the course for Bob Beckel. He hasn’t had a clue in 16 years. He’s not going to come up with one now.

The Democrats are swamped in the wake of Palin’s cruiser, and they still think nothing is wrong. Well, that’s not exactly true. If Bob didn’t think there was a huge problem with Palin’s popularity, he wouldn’t be addressing what impact she is going to have over all.

Beckel is scared to death. The Democrats are running scared.


17 posted on 09/11/2008 12:14:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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Beckel calls Governor Palin “Annie Oakley’?

First of all, Annie Oakley was a fiercely independent woman.

Secondly, when I look at Governor Palin, I think she is Reaganesque. She is the man Obama wishes he could be.

Last, but not least, Beckel is a putz.

18 posted on 09/11/2008 12:15:24 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Obama / Biden, the new Ebony and Ivory.)
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He’s right about one thing, Palin will not effect the outcome of the election. McCain was already going to win, now he’ll win by a larger margin.

Beckel places his confidence in the young/new voter and black votes that his messiah will command. Good luck with that strategy, Bob, relying on a demographic that doesn’t vote and another one that can’t be any more in the leftist pocket than it’s been for the last 30 years. Real winner you are.


19 posted on 09/11/2008 12:15:59 AM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
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Bob Beckel, the Democratic Pachyderm of American politics weighs in, and we discover his brain is as bloated as his belly, and his thoughts are as gelatinous as his jowls. Bob has been whistling this tune as he crawls cautiously past the graveyard for the last week. We have to wonder if Palin is so inconsequential, why she's occupied so much of SpongeBlobs -- and the zer0's -- energy; nearly all of it, in fact, since the announcement was made.

No doubt we'll have several more columns of this type leading into October 2nd, when, if zer0 hasn't exercised his Eagleton option, we'll be told either that VP debates are also meaningless, or, if by some genuine miracle Joe Biden actually manages to sound half-sober for a full 90 minutes how vital it is to have a capable veep in the event something awful should happen to the Big Cheese.

Of course, McCain has a mother whose DNA is apparently good enough to have lasted her for what -- 120 years now -- so Matt Damon's actuarial prognostications are probably as worthless as his -- or Bob's -- opinion on anything. And zer0 will simply succeed himself after rising from the grave.

Whatever betide, Bob will be right here, for chuckles. Like Dickens and Dostoevsky, I suspect he's paid by the word.

21 posted on 09/11/2008 12:19:58 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Senator Obama, I knew the Higgs. The Higgs was a friend of mine.. and Senator... you're no Higgs.)
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Oh shutup Bob


29 posted on 09/11/2008 12:35:23 AM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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People don’t vote for vps? Then why is the press going after her so hard?


31 posted on 09/11/2008 12:41:09 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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The new face of the Democrats
33 posted on 09/11/2008 12:57:30 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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The essence of Bob Beckel's argument is contained in this sentence:

In battleground states, voter registration, newly eligible young voters, eligible nonvoting blacks, and even death rates all favor Obama.

These are some of the statistics which I have been warning about all year.

Much if not all of these numbers except eligible nonvoting blacks and eligible young voters should already be accounted for in the polls we are looking at. In other words, if older McCain voters have died leaving fewer of them, those numbers should already be accounted for when the pollsters analyze the field. The same is true in the opposite direction for voter registration which Beckel presumes has run in Obama's favor. I am assuming that if the pollster does not have the entire field mapped and fenced the rest of his work is nonsense.

The pollsters however have a hard time measuring intensity which is the real danger coming from nonvoting blacks who are already registered or who will be, along with eligible young voters, registered before the election.

But for the other elements which measures things as they are, much of the damage has already been baked into the cake and recorded by the pollsters.

The second general observation is that with respect to the youth vote, no campaign has succeeded in winning an election on it. Democrats are always threatening to do so. They're always disappointed. Even if many youths are registered now, history tells us that not so great a percentage will vote for Obama and that might be all the more true in today's climate given his deteriorating image.

The big danger, of course, is that registered blacks will actually come out in this election for the first time. And it is unrealistic to deny that this is a serious challenge for McCain. There is however the backlash which might or might not occur among white voters who will be energized to vote against an African-American. And there is also the factor of whites who lie about their intentions. By the time November 4 rolls around, Obama's Messiah reputation might well be in tatters by election Day and the African-American community might not be nearly so energized as Beckel thinks. On the other hand, the white "community" might well have awakened to the radical threat represented by Barak Hussein Obama.

/ To counter Beckel's arguments, one might observe that we have no way to accurately measure the intensity of the movement for Governor Palin and that is probably why Beckel attempts to dismiss it early in his piece as being by nature destined to burn out quickly.

Beckel's analysis does not weigh the relative merits of the ground games. The Republican operatives in Ohio have been quoted on these threads as saying that the Democrat ground effort there is still amateurish. We shall see.

In my judgment, if McCain can hold Ohio the pivotal battleground state becomes Colorado where the ground game becomes decisive and the black vote relatively marginalized.

There is one other potentially game altering factor: USA/Gallup has just reported that voter identification for Republicans has just pulled to within one point of voter identification for Democrats. That could very well mean that pollsters, especially Rasmussen who is assuming a 7.6% advantage to the Democrats, is greatly under reporting McCain's position. Another report simply observed that the Republicans had improved their party identification by five percentage points without identifying the baselines. This is consistent with the USA/Gallup findings. This is undoubtedly the Palin effect and it could utterly overwhelm the rest of our statistics.

As I have been saying endlessly on these threads: Tip O'Neill had it wrong, all politics is not local, in America, all politics is racial.


35 posted on 09/11/2008 1:18:13 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Hey Bob old boy...if Palin doesn’t matter, why do you Democrat operatives keep talking about her? :)


37 posted on 09/11/2008 1:56:09 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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Hey Bob - bounced any checks to prostitutes lately?


38 posted on 09/11/2008 1:56:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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