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Courts Misusing Heller
The Firearms Coalition ^ | 10 September, 2008 | Jeff Knox

Posted on 09/11/2008 4:20:32 AM PDT by marktwain

“A person does not have the right under the Second Amendment, or under any other provision of the Constitution, to possess a machinegun. A person does not have a right, under the Second Amendment, or under any other provision of the Constitution, to possess a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 inches that the person has not registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.” (Instructions to the jury in U.S. v. Gilbert)

In the months since the US Supreme Court’s landmark decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, there have been over a dozen rulings by judges referencing the case and virtually all of them used Heller to support limitations on firearms rights. The degree to which they used the opinion ranged from simply rebutting an appellant’s erroneous claim that Heller nullifies the law under which they were convicted, to actually using the language in the Heller opinion to support restrictions as constitutional. In U.S. v. Gilbert, the Federal Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit did both.

On appeal, the 9th Circuit rejected Gilbert’s claim that the Heller decision’s recognition of the Second Amendment as protecting an individual right meant laws against felons possessing firearms and laws restricting possession of machineguns were unconstitutional. The Appeals Court correctly rejected this contention citing specific language in Heller which states that the decision is not to be taken to cast doubt upon the constitutionality of such laws. Had the court stopped there, no one would have reason to fault them, but the court didn’t stop there, instead they went on to suggest that Heller actually declared such laws to be constitutional.

There is a big difference between the Supreme Court saying, “We’re not addressing these issues” and the Court saying, “These laws are constitutional.” The Court was very careful in Heller to only make legal holdings which directly applied in that specific case. Though they did wander off into other territory, these wanderings were in the form of saying what the decision was not intended to do or impact, not how the Constitution should be interpreted in these specific areas.

Still, the 9th Circuit declared not only that Heller did not support Gilbert’s defense, but that it reinforced the lower court’s decision to include the Second Amendment information in the jury instructions. The Circuit Court held that, “Under Heller, individuals still do not have the right to possess machineguns or short-barreled rifles, as Gilbert did, and convicted felons, such as Gilbert, do not have the right to possess any firearms.” They went on to conclude that the judge’s comments on the Second Amendment in the jury instructions were correct and proper because Gilbert had improperly asserted that his actions were protected under the Second Amendment.

What the 9th Circuit failed to do, and part of this is the fault of Gilberts attorneys for not making the right arguments, was cite legal evidence for the accuracy of the special jury instructions. For over 70 years courts have based Second Amendment decisions upon a flawed interpretation of the 1936 Miller case. Virtually all of the legal support for the constitutionality of gun control laws lies on the foundation that Miller declared the Second Amendment to only apply to participation in government organized militias. Since Heller clearly declared this position to be void, restoring the Second Amendment as an individual right with no requisite connection to a government militia, all of the previous case law falls apart and can not be used as a basis for limiting Constitutional Rights.

In a footnote within the Heller decision the Court makes an observation that should be reviewed and applied by all judges trying to use Heller or prior case law as justification for limitation of Constitutional rights. The footnote is talking about a case which used Miller as a foundation for its conclusion and this is how the Court responded to that court’s approach:

“It is inconceivable that we would rest our interpretation of the basic meaning of any guarantee of the Bill of Rights upon such a footnoted dictum in a case where the point was not at issue and was not argued.”

It is still very early in the judicial life of the Heller decision, but the initial applications of the decision do not bode well for the future. What is particularly disturbing is that the pro-gun legal community doesn’t seem to be particularly bothered by these decisions and is not raising a vocal alarm. Imagine the uproar if courts had used prior case law to support school segregation after the Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. Such decisions would not have been allowed to pass quietly into the record for citation in future cases. These decisions using Heller, and precedents invalidated by Heller, should not be allowed to do so either.

Permission to reprint or post this article in its entirety for non-commercial purposes is hereby granted provided this credit is included. Text is available at www.FirearmsCoalition.org. To receive The Firearms Coalition’s bi-monthly newsletter, The Hard Corps Report, write to PO Box 3313, Manassas, VA 20108. ©Copyright 2008 Neal Knox Associates


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; gun; heller; lp
As expected, the lower courts are trying to turn the Second Amendment into a very limited "privilege". We must fight this in a smart way, with test cases as was done with Heller.

In a more fundamental sense, we must get more honest judges on the court, and that means electing McCain/Palin.

1 posted on 09/11/2008 4:20:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

9th Circus ... did anyone expect them to get it right?


2 posted on 09/11/2008 4:28:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (don't worry, they only want to take water out of the other guy's side of the bucket.)
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To: marktwain
“A person does not have the right under the Second Amendment, or under any other provision of the Constitution, to possess a machinegun. A person does not have a right, under the Second Amendment, or under any other provision of the Constitution, to possess a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 inches that the person has not registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record.” (Instructions to the jury in U.S. v. Gilbert)

No one has any right under the Second Amendment to a firearm. That is a consistent and fundamental misunderstanding of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, and the document that informs them, the Declaration of Independence.

Under the Second Amendment, we have a protection of our natural right to self-defense by the prohibition on the government of infringing on that natural right:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

We are not going to stop this rights as privileges being doled out by the government garbage until we first stop going along with our natural rights being called rights under an amendment or rights under the Constitution. It will make getting the right judges a lot easier when we get the philosophy and meaning right.

3 posted on 09/11/2008 5:06:14 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Dahoser

Well said.

Self-defence is a natural right. Government cannot grant us that right, in the same way as it cannot grant us the right to exist.

We have the right to self-defence - and therefore to arm ourselves - because we exist. It is not dependent upon the whim of Government.


4 posted on 09/11/2008 5:16:35 AM PDT by agere_contra (This election is the showdown between the producers and the non-producers in our society.)
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To: Dahoser
Government canNOT rescind something God given...yet they do so daily...

gotta pump a little grease into the founders' grave bearings before they start smokin again...

5 posted on 09/11/2008 5:34:16 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: NonValueAdded
9th Circus ... did anyone expect them to get it right?

Actually, if there is a distortion which can be applied which will in any way lessen the rights of the individual, I think we can count on the 9th to find it.

Only a decision which is written in such a way as to preclude that will be sufficient.

6 posted on 09/11/2008 5:42:52 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: marktwain
And every single Justice on the Supreme Court, in Heller (including Scalia and the rest of the majority) got Miller wrong.

Deliberate misconstruction of Miller is at the bottom of decades of faulty 2nd amendment jurisprudence.

7 posted on 09/11/2008 6:20:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: marktwain

This was inevitable. I still can’t believe that the supreme court could issue a 60+ page opinion on the 2nd amendment without once mentioning Letters of Marquee and Reprisal. It was a good opinion in some ways, but they weaseled out where they could have done some real good.


8 posted on 09/11/2008 7:36:16 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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9 posted on 09/11/2008 7:32:53 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: marktwain
"A person does not have the right under the Second Amendment, or under any other provision of the Constitution, to possess a machinegun. A person does not have a right, under the Second Amendment, or under any other provision of the Constitution, to possess a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 inches that the person has not registered in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record."

Thank heavens I have my bettors to 'splain the Constitution to me. It's not like I can read or anything. Looks like this guy is a little hazy on the whole "jury" concept.

10 posted on 09/11/2008 9:18:14 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: marktwain

The 9th Circuit would try to claim that Heller doesn’t exist, and that DC would be allowed to continue its gun ban even though Heller overturned it.


11 posted on 09/15/2008 9:08:49 PM PDT by Thunder90
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