Skip to comments.WaPo Religion Blogger Attacks Sarah Palin's Religion
Posted on 09/11/2008 9:15:55 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
A Washington Post "On Faith" religion blogger, Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite, is so affected by PDS (Palin Derangement Syndrome) that she has launched a hate-filled screed against Palin's religion. This might seem an uncharacteristic thing for an ordained minister to do but not when you find out a bit more about Our Miss Brooks. Her bio on the Washington Post site describes Thistlethwaite's area of expertise as "contextual theologies of liberation." Liberation theology which is another way of saying Marxism wrapped in a phony religious wrapper to make it seem more palatable. Thistlethwaite launches a distinctly un-Christian snarky attack upon Palin right from the start of her blog (emphasis mine):
"Wives be subject to your husbands, as unto the Lord." So says the Christian scriptures in Ephesians, 5:22. What I would like to know, first of all, is who is going to have the final authority as Vice-President if Sarah Palin is elected, Palin or her husband? In fact, I think the first order of business with Palin is to ask her to give the same kind of speech that was demanded of John F. Kennedy re his Catholicism. Kennedy said he would obey the Constitution over the Pope. Will Palin obey the Constitution over her husband?
You see where Thistlewaite is coming from? Of course, Brooks would never think of asking that question of Nancy Pelosi...or Hillary. Brooks continues plummeting into the depths with a direct attack on Palin's religion:
(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...
The big joke on The Elite is that the common man does quite well without him. Since we’re talking religion, then I guess we need to reexamine Obama and his pastor of 20-years.
During her senior year at Smith College, Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite M.Div.74, Ph.D.80 and other students were meeting in an auditorium discussing whether to go on strike in protest against the Vietnam War, when a student ran down the center aisle frantically screaming: Theyre shooting students at Kent State! In that moment, Thistlethwaites fear of being kicked out of college because of the proposed strike paled before the fear of the National Guard shooting students. The planned strike suddenly had the potential to become a life-or-death confrontation. Fortunately, the strike was both peaceful and successful. We actually shut down the school, Thistlethwaite says in a tone that reveals the long-term influence of her early activism. After classes were suspended, sympathetic professors taught in a strike school that she helped organize. The success of this nonviolent direct action has empowered me from that day to this, she says. I regard it as the most important learning of my life. I learned that I could resist in a nonviolent way and, in partnership with others, help bring a horrible conflict to an end. Today, Thistlethwaite, 58, has made her position as president of Chicago Theological Seminary (CTS) a platform for writing and speaking out against war, an institution she calls one of the greatest moral evils on the face of the earth. One of just a handful of women in the United States heading a major seminary, Thistlethwaite grew up keenly aware of the consequences of war. Her grandfather, Earl Jenkins, was seriously debilitated by mustard gas in World War I, and her father, Richard H. Brooks, became very emotionally withdrawn and often very angry after service in World War II. My father dropped dead of a heart attack at age 55, she says. My grandfather would just wake up in the middle of the night screaming. Sometimes he thought that shells were falling around him. In River Edge, N.J., a suburb tucked in the shadow of Manhattan, Thistlethwaite knew boys from River Dell High who never returned from Vietnam, and others who came back shell-shocked. As an adult, Thistlethwaite concluded that War is just the farthest away from God you can get. People who experience war, even if they live through it, are never the same. Thistlethwaite, who raised three sons while moving through the academic ranks, is an ordained United Church of Christ minister, a popular anti-war speaker, and a prolific writer. Whether addressing a congressional committee or a church group, she says speaking out is an integral part of her work. She negotiated with CTS trustees to continue her activism, as long as what she says is consistent with the seminarys vision, mission and commitment statement. There are very few seminary presidents who are visible and active in the public square, she says, but I am one of them. Although she is an outspoken critic of the Iraq war, Thistlethwaite favors a careful withdrawal. Will [the war] end wisely is the question, she says. I think regional, diplomatic and political coalitions need to be in place or you will make it worse. I think we will see many, many more deaths before that transition can occur. Walking away would be incredibly unwise, because nature and politics abhor a vacuum. Thistlethwaite describes herself as a just peace activist, and is the editor of the bookThe Just Peace Church, which advocates 10 practices for abolishing war. I think there are times when at least containing evil is necessary, she says, adding that governments worldwide must do a better job of training peacekeeping forces. The application of just war theory is flawed, she says: It is supposed to be a restraint on violence, [but] it is most often used as a justification for violence. The Herzog Leap At Duke, Thistlethwaite found a mentor in the late Frederick Herzog, a professor of systematic theology who is best known for his work in the field of liberation theology. She describes Herzog, who died in 1995 at age 69, as the greatest influence on my academic life, on my approach to theology, and certainly on what it means to be a principled person of faith. Fred taught me how to think in a committed and passionate way about changing the world. One of her favorite memories is when, to drive home his point during a lecture on Protestant theologian Friedrich Schleiermacher, Herzog got up on a chair and jumped out a first-floor classroom window. This of course stuck in our minds in a very vivid way, Thistlethwaite says. On the day that Herzog died, she happened to be lecturing on Schleiermacher on the first floor of CTS. I decided to honor Fred by reenacting this, and so I climbed up on a chair and I got one foot over the window sill. Then I looked down and I thought God, Im going to break my foot. So I gave the rest of the lecture straddling the window sill, but I never actually jumped. The thing about Fred was, he actually jumped. Thistlethwaite stays in touch with Herzogs widow, Kristin Herzog, an independent scholar who holds a graduate degree in English from Duke. Susan Thistlethwaite has never been afraid to tackle the most difficult issues in theology and society, from war and peace to gender, race and prostitution, says Herzog. The fact that she has reached the top of her profession is of enormous importance not only for women and for the academic world, but also for the church, especially since she is active in international ecumenical relations. Thistlethwaite is frequently asked questions about how she was able to succeed as a mother and a professional. In an interview for Working Mother Magazine, she rejected images of juggling and balancing family and career, which she noted are typically used to describe mothers, but not fathers, who work outside the home. She advocates building networks so that children have a solid and extended web of care from family and others. It was her husband, Dr. James Richard Thistlethwaite, who urged her to accept the CTS presidency. When I said I wasnt sure I could do the job, he put his arms around me and he said, Sure you can. A professor of surgery and president of the medical staff at the University of Chicago Medical Center, Dick Thistlethwaite says that while he and his wife live in different professional worlds, Our joint commitments to help those who are less fortunate and more vulnerable resound nicely. Sue has convinced me that peaceful solutions are always available if people are brave enough to seek them, he says. Ive benefited greatly from these lessons since polarized opinions and conflict are not foreign to the field of medicine, especially in surgery. Her best preparation for the role of seminary president, said Thistlethwaite, came from motherhood and the local church. Being a mother of toddlers teaches you to live with distractibility, she said. You just cant get from A to B to C because youre always interrupted, and thats the same now. I just cannot get from the beginning of the day to the end following any particular plan. As president, Thistlethwaite also serves as pastor-in-residence to her seminarys board of trustees. In July, she went to visit a life trustee in the hospital. She arrived just after he had died, and she stayed with him, praying, while his family was notified. Afterward she felt a profound sense of her role in relationship to the students, faculty, staff and trustees of CTS. We are an academic institution, but we are also really a church as well, she says. The transition to president was more like going back to the local church than anything else. Thistlethwaite has devoted much of her career to addressing cultural stereotypes, the exclusion of women in traditional church structures, and a more equitable church for the 21st century, including 15 years translating Scripture into inclusive language. She worked on two translations: The Inclusive Language Lectionary (Pilgrim) and The New Testament and Psalms: An Inclusive Version (Oxford). I think language shapes our perceptions of reality in the most profound way possible, and therefore inclusive language both about humans and the divine is critical, she says. Womens ordination, which has been a UCC practice for more than a century, is normative for her, says Thistlethwaite. I wont say there isnt discrimination, certainly, but it has not been a big part of my experience of the ministry, of being an academic in religion, nor of being CTS president. But Thistlethwaite cautions that political power for women may not translate into a more compassionate society: I dont hold a particularly sentimental view that women are the be all and end all of human salvation. Women are human beings, which means they are conservative human beings; they are liberal human beings; they are stupid human beings; they are smart human beings; they are compassionate; they are cruel. Excluding otherswhether women, gays or people of coloris bad for human communities, says Thistlethwaite. The sin of exclusion is fundamentally corrupting to churches and communities: they are not experiencing the full breadth of human gifts and human liabilities that come through inclusiveness. The Age of Religion Although political observers 25 years ago predicted that religion would disappear almost completely in the 21st century, Thistlethwaite contends that this is the age of religion. Religious fervor and religion have increased significantly as forces in local, regional and world politics, especially in the last decade, in the United States and other countries. The effect on theological education, she says, will force more change in the next decade than at any time since the Reformation. Seminaries, especially the mainline institutions, are singularly unprepared to deal with the new place of religion and its relationship to broad social and political forces, says Thistlethwaite. Mainline institutions tend to be insular and preoccupied with each ones own narrow niche in religion, she says. The net result is that most seminaries are preparing pastors for a church that is disappearing in a world that is bleeding from a lack of visionary religious leadership. These institutions will either need to change to respond to the need for a different kind of religious leader for the 21st century or they will wither with irrelevance. Although she disagrees with the focus of evangelical and fundamentalist Christian seminaries, Thistlethwaite says These institutions are more often seriously taking stock of the global and interfaith implications of theological education today. I think it is also the role of seminaries in the mainline to step up to providing lay education for this emerging world and to foster imaginative responses among lay people in their own church leadership. It is imperative for seminaries to educate laity in the deep truths of the Gospel to help them resist manipulation by crass political strategists who want to use the churches to get out the vote for a particular candidate or party. Next year, after two five-year terms as president, Thistlethwaite plans to step down from her post as president and return to the classroom, where she taught for 16 years at CTS prior to becoming president. Ten years is enough, she says. Its an incredibly difficult job. People who have not sat in these chairs have no idea how difficult it is to be a seminary president today. http://www.divinity.duke.edu/publications/2007.09/features/feature4/print_feature4.htm
^^^ Banner from her days at Smith. Aging hippie.
How does she know what her relationship is with her husband?
Women can be powerful, capable, imaginative, creative, and accomplished without ever devaluing the relationship that is between her husband and herself. The two ideas are NOT mutually exclusive.
Libs crack me up with their hypocrisy....werent they the ones so understanding and willing to ignore that their former president was a womanizing, held no respect for women jerk?
Maybe he believed in that scripture line taken out of context too.
The author needs to check out this video
The Reverend Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite (former president of Chicago Theological Seminary currently on the faculty)
(Note: Chicago home of BHO)
Ph.D. , Duke University; Master of Divinity (Summa Cum Laude), Duke Divinity School; B.A., Smith College
Author: Casting Stones: Prostitution and Liberation in Asia and the United States with Rita Nakashima Brock (Fortress, 1996); The New Testament and Psalms: An Inclusive Translation (Oxford University Press, 1995)
The Reverend Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite, Ph.D. works in the area of contextual theologies of liberation, specializing in issues of violence and violation.
In 1999, Orbis Press published the 10th anniversary edition of Lift Every Voice: Constructing Christian Theologies from the Underside, a work Thistlethwaite edited with Mary Potter Engel. This is one of the most widely used textbooks in the U.S. to teach theology.
In 2001, Thistlethwaite taught a course entitled “God, Adam, and Eve: Theological Anthropology in the Genome Age” with CTS Associate Professor Laurel Schneider. Thistlethwaite will edit the lectures and discussions into a volume to be published.
This is just the way the MSM tries to nullify the Rev. Wright association by drawing what amounts to an equivalence between the two.
Since she is bringing up religion...perhaps we should ponder these questions:
In attacking her “religion”, they are in essence attacking the Assemblies of God, as that is what church she was raised in and has attended on an off during her adult life.
It’s ironic that the A/G would be assailed for being a “wives submit to your husbands” extremist Church as the A/G has to continually justify the ordination of women when talking with many larger, more conservative churches (like the Catholic Church).
So, if the A/G is extreme in it’s views of women, are they suggesting that Churches with more conservative views of women are even more extreme?
If the media and Democrats wish to attack the Catholic Church as out of the mainstream and extreme, more power to them. It will assure a landslide for McCain.
The United Church of Christ: Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite Responds ...Feb 27, 2008 ... Dr. Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite, president of UCC-related Chicago Theological Seminary,
Barack Obama is/was a United Church of Christ (UCC) member.
Trinity UCC Chicago is a UCC Church.
Jeremiah Wright is a UCC minister.
Should it be any surprise to anyone that Dr. Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite, president of UCC-related Chicago Theological Seminary, would write a hit piece on Palin.
The UCC is another of Obama’s relations that need to be exposed.
The UCC is a leftist run organization.
All this does is continue to demonstrate to the American public just how nasty and small-minded the Obama crowd is.
I’ve never seen such a large group that is so unversally reviling and deranged. It really is a shocking portrait of what the left has become. They are the Manson family writ large. And guess which one is Charlie.
I’ve realized that I’m starting to seriously fear for Sarah Palin’s life. After verbally assassinating someone over and over again and watching her power grows in spite of every effort to derail her, can the left actually ‘handle’ such a stunning loss - AGAIN?
The Keith Olbermanns of the world are exhibit A demonstrating the hysteria that causes irrationality that should be a source of embarrassment and shame when broadcast to a national TV audience, but he represents something far more disturbing, and that is the growing “mob” mentality of the left.
They will take by “force” what they believe they are entitled to.
They lambaste 9-11.
They try to storm the RNC.
They send dozens of lawyers to Alaska to bottom-feed for their candidate.
They write “professional” articles of a sexually and intellectually pornographic nature, filled with the kind of sewage that could only come from a sewer.
They attack a person for being a Christian, and in the next breath compare that person to the devil.
They sneer that a person is too patriotic, then compare that person to Osama bin Laden.
They belittle other human beings in the cruelest terms and are more than happy to share with the rest of the class.
They hold massive rallies that evoke the Nietzchian Superman and the echoes of Leni Riefenstahl.
They swoon for domestic terrorists and sneer at the POW Patriot.
They put children up for auction on eBay.
They intimidate voters and create voters where none existed.
They lament that another Down’s baby made it through the canal.
They are like perverts that can’t help but indecently expose themselves to children in the park, if only to get some attention.
They are imbalanced.
And they are seething with hatred.
I fear for Gov. Palin and pray God’s protection upon her.
I hope they keep beating this horse because most Christians get the meaning of “wives submit to your husbands”. Even in the literal sense its not about *professionally* obeying your husband its about the spiritual life in the home.
Were my wife to be elected Governor I would only offer advice when asked to avoid blurring those lines and it would only be advice. Meanwhile in the spiritual home life I would still be the one responsible for most things.
It’s completely stupid. Is there a single Christian husband who follows his wife around work all day (whether in or out of the home), micromanaging and instructing her how to do her job?
What liberals hate about Catholics, Evangelicals, Eastern Orthodox and Orthodox Judaism is that which all of them have in common: A belief that we are all sinners, guilty of breaking faith with God, liable to his Judgement, and in need of His mercy.
They really hate that "judgement" part.