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When? How about right now! (Or you could do the math and tell us the angular difference between Pluto's actual and observed position at 1200 GMT 09/18/08)

I don't observe Pluto at this time :)

I think the real question of when is, when are you going to back this claim up with multiple external sources?

Just go to "The Feynman lectures on Physics" 7-5, and read the section on Jupiters moons and the mystery of 1656. I told you and MrJesse a long time ago that I was simply going to use Feynman's lectures. If I tell you anything that contradicts Feynman then a I am probably in error : )

If not, why not?

Because the sun does not orbit the earth. Thats why not.

Are you denying that the Sun appears to move 180º through the sky every day? LOL From my frame of reference on the surface of the Earth, the Sun appears to rise in the East and set in the West.

I think I figured it out! You think that you are Joshua and that the Sun and the Moon don't move in the sky : ) I think I will call you Joshua from now on, to remind me of your belief that the Sun and the Moon don't move through the sky.

“I don't observe Pluto at this time :)” [excerpt]

Its a mathematical question.
You don't have to be able to see Pluto to do the math.

Saying you can't do a math problem because you can't see Pluto is a cheap copout.

“Just go to "The Feynman lectures on Physics" 7-5, and read the section on Jupiters moons and the mystery of 1656. I told you and MrJesse a long time ago that I was simply going to use Feynman's lectures. If I tell you anything that contradicts Feynman then a I am probably in error : )” [excerpt]

Were not talking about Jupiter's moons.
Were talking about the sun and its alleged 2.1 degrees, and Pluto along with its 102 degrees.
(If your going to reference Feynman, provide a link to the exact quote you are referencing.)

“Are you denying that the Sun appears to move 180º through the sky every day? LOL From my frame of reference on the surface of the Earth, the Sun appears to rise in the East and set in the West.” [excerpt]

I've always maintained that the Sun's actually position was within 21 arc seconds of its apparent position.
The Sun does appear to rise in the East and set in the West, and its gravitational pull is synchronized within 21 arcseconds of its apparent position.

“ I think I figured it out! You think that you are Joshua and that the Sun and the Moon don't move in the sky : ) I think I will call you Joshua from now on, to remind me of your belief that the Sun and the Moon don't move through the sky.” [excerpt]

The Sun does not orbit the earth. (The moon does.)
(Are you claiming that there is no difference between the earth orbiting the sun, and the sun orbiting the earth?)

does the 2.1 degrees come from the Sun's motion through the galaxy?

Does it come from the rotation of the earth? (would it still be present of the Sun was completely stationary?)

LeGrande, Your an atheist.

Wikipedia covers just about every idea that any atheist could find intriguing.

Please provide a Wikipedia link.

If it is true that the apparent position of the sun and its actual position are separated by 2.1 degrees, Wikipedia, Nasa, etc, should list it as a common fact.

The fact is, you would be 100% right about the 2.1 degrees IF the sun orbited the earth.

You have had plenty of time and countless opportunities to empirically demonstrate the physics behind your claims.

All you have put forward is slight of hand logic that does not hold up to scrutiny.