Posted on 09/11/2008 5:35:57 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
It happens. I spent the day cutting and pasting comments from long term posters and donors to Democrat Underground, who were saying outrageous things about 9-11. (F*** 9-11, inside job, yada yada). These were not driveby noobs to that site, these were regulars, longtimers etc
I did so in the context of “these were the same types the MSM was getting the latest Palin rumors from. It really made DU look horrible...but it was pulled with a “no thanks” comment from the mod on duty.
Hey, its their site, but IMHO your post is much more valuable than:
“Former Scout Leader Pleads Guilty To Sex Charges” or some NFL quarterback being injured.
Loved your work on “Pig-gate”-lol Don’t give up!
ping
"Would that be an African or a European swallow?" [quoting from memory]
Great work.
I was really surprised to find that anyone thought that a blunder. I thought it was really deft. She wasn’t going to let him hang “BUSH” on her, which was all he wanted to do. Define the doctrine, and I’ll tell you whether I agree with it. Perfect.
He was angling for preemptive war, the fish wouldn’t take the bait.
This is the only place I have seen the correct report on Gov. Palin’s answer to Gibson’s question:
“Do you agree with the Bush doctrine? PALIN: In what respect, Charlie? “
She asked because the Doctrine is not simply about pre-emptive strikes....of course, Gibson doesn’t know that and apparently neither do any of the left-wing blogs.
“1) The phrase initially described the policy that the United States had the right to treat countries that harbor or give aid to terrorist groups as terrorists themselves, which was used to justify the invasion of Afghanistan.”
This is the actual Bush Doctrine. The remaining three points are hardly unique to Bush.
“the controversial policy of preventive war, which held that the United States should depose foreign regimes that represented a threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate”
This has been U.S. policy since Jefferson went after the Barbary pirates. Mexico did not directly provoke us, we thought Spain attacked us but they didn’t, Germany did not directly attack us before WWI, Germany did not attacke us before WWII, North Korea did not attack us before the Korean War, Vietnam in all likelihood did not attack us before that conflict. In fact, we have gone to war because of direct provocation very few times. Japan comes to mind, as do the Confederate States and Great Britain twice. Any others?
“3) a policy of supporting democracy around the world”
At least since Wilson’s quixotic Fourteen Points, this has been our official policy. Bush’s use of it is an updating of Wilsonianism and the Truman Doctrine.
“4) a willingness to pursue U.S. military interests in a unilateral way”
This depends on how one defines “unilateral.” To libs, I suppose it means giving nebulous “world opinion” the equivalent of a UN security council veto. In point of fact, we now have, and always have had, allies. The only time I can think of when we allowed our allies to dictate our foreign policy was with Stalin at the end of WWII
In summary, whoever wrote this Wikipedia entry is ignorant.
Now Palin was smart enough to see Gibson trying to ask a loaded question filled with presumption and asked for clarification. Gibson then changed the question to simply, “What do you believe the Bush Doctrine is?” and Sarah saw the trap and yet still obliged to a certain extent. Her answer was spot-on but she is now on notice that the MSM will from here on out try “Gotcha!” questions relentlessly and she needs to stilletto it artfully back in their face.
Can you link to something showing this “official” Bush doctrine?
I didn’t have a chance to see the interview. Did she know any of them?
Well we still aren't exactly sure what she said - the version of the interview which ran at 6:30PM on World News Tonight was COMPLETELY different from the version of the interview which ran at 11:35PM on Nightline.
The 6:30PM was choppy and herky-jerky and amateur-ish-ly edited, whereas the version which ran at 11:35PM had an aggressive, rapid-fire flow to it.
I was very, very impressed with her performance in the 11:35PM version.
The only thing I didn't like about the 11:35PM version was that the McAmnesty people seem to be leaning hard on her to tow the party line on the myth of global warming, but you could tell that she was very uncomfortable with the idea of propagating that myth.
The Bush doctrine
In American foreign policy, a new motto: Don't ask. Tell
By Charles Krauthammer
February 26, 2001
http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/2001/03/05/doctrine.html
America is no mere international citizen. It is the dominant power in the world, more dominant than any since Rome. Accordingly, America is in a position to reshape norms, alter expectations and create new realities. How? By unapologetic and implacable demonstrations of will.
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