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What if Obama Loses? ("reminiscent of the [1960s] riots")
thecitizen.com ^ | September 10, 2008 | Gary Fields and Jonathan Kaufman

Posted on 09/11/2008 6:45:18 PM PDT by 11th_VA

An anxious murmur is rising among black voters as the presidential race tightens: What if Sen. Barack Obama loses?

Black talk-show hosts and black-themed Web sites are being flooded with callers and bloggers reflecting a nervousness—and anger—over the campaign. Monday night, Bev Smith, a nationally syndicated black talk-show host in Pittsburgh, devoted her entire three-hour show to the question: “If Obama doesn’t win, what will you think?”

“My audience is upset,” she said. “Some people said they would be so angry it would be reminiscent of the [1960s] riots—that is how despondent they would be.”

Warren Ballentine, a nationally syndicated black talk-radio-show host, added: “Once Sarah Palin was picked and African-Americans saw the Republicans ignited again, they got worried. We are scared now.”

Black nervousness could help Sen. Obama, the first African-American to head the Democratic—or any major party—ticket, by boosting black turnout in November. But if Sen. Obama loses, “African-Americans could be disappointed to the point of not engaging in the process anymore,” or consider forming a third political party, said Richard McIntire, communications director for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

The latest Wall Street Journal poll shows 88% of blacks backing Sen. Obama. Black voter registration has surged.

“If he loses, it will shake the very ground that we stand on mentally as far as what we need to be to succeed,” said Robert Gordon, a 48-year-old engineering surveyor from Dallas. “From day one, we’ve been told to be a certain way, to be neat, intellectual, speak clearly. He is the symbol of what we were told to be by our parents and by society as a whole. If this doesn’t work, what does that do to our psyche? What do I tell my sons? No matter what the hell we do, it doesn’t matter? We can only assimilate so far.”

Melvin Thomas, a professor at North Carolina State University and past president of the Association of Black Sociologists, said black response to the election likely will depend on “how African-Americans will see a vote against Mr. Obama. What does the racial distribution of that vote look like? If the answer for African-Americans to the question of why Obama lost is race, an Obama loss will have the potential to deepen the racial cut.”

Obama campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett said the campaign isn’t spending its time wondering what happens if the senator loses. “One of the life lessons I’ve learned from Barack is that you can’t have a fear of failure. It is debilitating,” said Ms. Jarrett. “You can’t go into any venture fearful of what will happen if you fail.”

She recalled that when Sen. Obama lost a House race in 2000, she and others suggested he give it more time before seeking another seat. Instead, he ran for the Senate and won in 2004.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; election; electionpresident; mccain; mccainpalin; obama; obamabiden; whatifobamaloses
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Nothing like pouring gasoline on the fire ...
1 posted on 09/11/2008 6:45:18 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Riots, guaranteed.


2 posted on 09/11/2008 6:47:20 PM PDT by ryan71 (My hockey mom bitch-slapped your soccer mom)
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To: 11th_VA

Ya Gotta love those Democrat campaign slogans. “Vote For Obama Or Die!”


3 posted on 09/11/2008 6:47:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: 11th_VA

Ask yourself this: What happens when the Detriot Pistons WIN?

Whatever happens, it’s gonna be ugly.


4 posted on 09/11/2008 6:47:47 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: 11th_VA

I will tell you one thing I will not be putting up with any nonsense in my neighborhood. I will be protecting “the hood”.


5 posted on 09/11/2008 6:48:32 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: 11th_VA

America is more than ready for a black president.

NObama just isn’t that person.


6 posted on 09/11/2008 6:49:03 PM PDT by Finatic (this species has amused itself to death)
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To: 11th_VA

I would rather have Obama lose and a few riots than have him in the Oval Office..bring it on, bring it on.


7 posted on 09/11/2008 6:49:20 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: 11th_VA

*SIGH*

I’m clearly gonna need more ammo...cuz barry is going down faster than a clinton intern...


8 posted on 09/11/2008 6:49:34 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: 11th_VA
Melvin Thomas, a professor at North Carolina State University and past president of the Association of Black Sociologists, said black response to the election likely will depend on “how African-Americans will see a vote against Mr. Obama.

It will be spun as racism no matter how clear the evidence that it wasnt.

9 posted on 09/11/2008 6:51:01 PM PDT by freespirited (Obama's idea of change: from D.C. politics as usual to Chicago politics as usual.)
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To: 11th_VA

Oh! Wow! I’ll *have* to vote for 0 now!!!!

/extreme sarcasm


10 posted on 09/11/2008 6:51:30 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (Typical Whitey Gramma just like Obamies!)
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To: 11th_VA

Two words...grazing fire


11 posted on 09/11/2008 6:51:36 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 11th_VA

I’m listening to the Rusty Humphries Show and he just had an author on who said the next name to pay attention to as far as an Obama connection is:

Mike Klonsky

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/elections/3723-mike-klonsky-obama-blogger.html

It sounded like he was going to come out with something on Monday.

Not sure it will amount to anything, just passing it along.


12 posted on 09/11/2008 6:51:59 PM PDT by waus (Animal House, with a slight variance: Have another beer Barry.)
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To: 11th_VA
Some should tell 'em the real racists are Democrats. They are all formally for Obama but are working behind the scenes to ensure he never gets elected President.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 09/11/2008 6:52:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 11th_VA

In the immortal words of Bush #43, “Bring it on.”


14 posted on 09/11/2008 6:52:54 PM PDT by Clioman
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To: Finatic

YEAH!!! Condi, J.C, Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, on and on and on. Just not this guy, no way, no how.


15 posted on 09/11/2008 6:52:59 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: 11th_VA

Oh, no. Just when H Street, NE in DC is finally being rebuilt after the ‘68 riots.


16 posted on 09/11/2008 6:53:45 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: All

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.


17 posted on 09/11/2008 6:53:50 PM PDT by CE2949BB (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: 11th_VA
>"If this doesn’t work, what does that do to our psyche? What do I tell my sons? No matter what the hell we do, it doesn’t matter? We can only assimilate so far.”

Hey if America aint yer cup o tea, you can always go back to Afreeka. Cerially, if it's that bad why stay?

18 posted on 09/11/2008 6:53:52 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: Crim

Hey, this is a shout out to all my peeps out there keeping it real:

NEWSFLASH: Showing up in a suit and with a shave and speaking correctly does not ENTITLE you to the job. Those are the minimum requirements to sit in the waiting room with the rest of us.

There is so much that is RACIST about that article I don’t know where to begin. Oh I know, I’ll start my own political party with 13% of the population of which over half have felonies on their record and aren’t allowed by US law to vote. Smart thinking.


19 posted on 09/11/2008 6:54:23 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: 11th_VA
If its close, or God forbid an electoral/popular split like Bush-Gore then yes the nation will burn. If this is a repeat of Regan-Mondale then no. They can't blame Dibold for a 10 point beating. Also if its big they will know they are getting beat well in advance. There will be a lot of shouting but not the riots that come from the rumors of being cheated.

One other thing is that this year the conservatives would fight for Sarah. Plain and simple the riots would find themselves in contested streets. The Marines and the NRA vs Gang Bangers and Code Pink. Once it gets started It's going to be a lot less fun then the bomb throwers think.
20 posted on 09/11/2008 6:54:30 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: 11th_VA

“Melvin Thomas, a professor at North Carolina State University and past president of the Association of Black Sociologists, said black response to the election likely will depend on “how African-Americans will see a vote against Mr. Obama. What does the racial distribution of that vote look like? If the answer for African-Americans to the question of why Obama lost is race, an Obama loss will have the potential to deepen the racial cut.”

OK, why is it OK for 88% of blacks to vote for their guy...
BUT, if he loses, because whites voted for a white guy,
that’s worthy of riot??


22 posted on 09/11/2008 6:54:44 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: All

Please...pretty please....


23 posted on 09/11/2008 6:55:22 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: 11th_VA

These people sound like typical libs - petulant, spoiled, and threatening to misbehave if they don’t get their way.

Zero’s race isn’t the issue - he’s a commie rat b@st@rd. THAT is the issue.


24 posted on 09/11/2008 6:55:43 PM PDT by 43north (McCain/Palin '08 - Now That's the Ticket!!!)
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To: 11th_VA; ryan71
"Nothing like pouring gasoline on the fire ..."

"Black Day in July" I lived just northeast of Detroit during the riots in 1967 and it was something to see. They burned down a lot of realestate. Detroit could probably stand to burn down a lot more run down buildings. It's a shame if it comes to that.

25 posted on 09/11/2008 6:56:13 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Conspirators")
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To: 11th_VA
“Some people said they would be so angry it would be reminiscent of the [1960s] riots—that is how despondent they would be.”

You riot, let's call out the unorganized militia and shoot the bastards when they commit the inevitable looting, arson, rape and robberies. (And yes this is legal in Texas)

26 posted on 09/11/2008 6:56:31 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: 11th_VA

The stores are being pre picked.


27 posted on 09/11/2008 6:56:53 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: 11th_VA
Whatever the outcome it must be decisive, not close.

consider forming a third political party

Sounds like a good idea emotionally but would be a negative move. It's the candidate that matters and Obama being black isn't sufficient reason to make him a winner.

28 posted on 09/11/2008 6:57:02 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It just means that there would be another grand free-for-all shopping spree again.


29 posted on 09/11/2008 6:57:40 PM PDT by yorkie01
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To: 11th_VA
“From day one, we’ve been told to be a certain way, to be neat, intellectual, speak clearly. He is the symbol of what we were told to be by our parents and by society as a whole. If this doesn’t work, what does that do to our psyche? What do I tell my sons? No matter what the hell we do, it doesn’t matter? We can only assimilate so far.”

Oh come on, look at all of the neat, intellectual, clear speaking white guys who have lost elections. The first black candidate doesn't win, toss in the towel?
30 posted on 09/11/2008 6:57:44 PM PDT by milemark (allegedly.)
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To: freespirited
"It will be spun as racism no matter how clear the evidence that it wasn't."

If the percentage of the white vote for McCain is less than the percentage of the black vote for Obama, how in the world can they cry racism?

31 posted on 09/11/2008 6:57:56 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: 11th_VA
BRING IT.
32 posted on 09/11/2008 6:58:13 PM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: 11th_VA

“Racism” I believe purports a belief in some ideological creed of racial discrimination, could these clowns please show me where this is much less show me where it is propigated from. Because from what I see it is nothing but servility towards the white hating race hustlers.


33 posted on 09/11/2008 6:58:42 PM PDT by junta ("Better dead than white")
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To: 11th_VA

destruction of property is a crime just fyi.


34 posted on 09/11/2008 6:58:43 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: PhilosopherStones

When Obama looses, the early riots will happen in the south, were it will still be warm. The other riots will happen in early summer in the colder states. Getting a new TV, refrigerator or finer clothes will have to wait until it is warmer.


35 posted on 09/11/2008 6:58:51 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama IS running against Palin)
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To: 11th_VA

You know, they are right.

We really should just let him win.


36 posted on 09/11/2008 6:58:53 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Centurion2000

Honestly, I think Texas will be the last place for riots to break out.


37 posted on 09/11/2008 6:59:00 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: 11th_VA
“From day one, we’ve been told to be a certain way, to be neat, intellectual, speak clearly. He is the symbol of what we were told to be by our parents and by society as a whole. If this doesn’t work, what does that do to our psyche? What do I tell my sons? No matter what the hell we do, it doesn’t matter? We can only assimilate so far.”

Too bad - grow up and get over needing somebody to wipe you. Doing the right thing is reward in itself and you ought to know that by now. I mean, if you need somebody else to validate you in your own success, you ain't much after all. Besides, there are tons of white guys who might be said to represent me and I think they're 99% jackasses and swine. I am solely responsible for myself - always.
38 posted on 09/11/2008 6:59:08 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: lstanle

And Heaven forbid it is like 2004 again. If polls are even, or Obama is ahead by a tiny margin and then loses, all we will hear is that the election was rigged. “The exit polls are never wrong,” etc.


39 posted on 09/11/2008 6:59:38 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: rawcatslyentist

That idiot has it backwards. Obama will lose not because he is blak, but because he is an unassimilated leftist, who has thinly veiled contempt for America and hatred for its founding population.


40 posted on 09/11/2008 6:59:54 PM PDT by rmlew (NYARLATHOTEP / BIDEN'08 . If you don't believe me check out the first's wikipedia page.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Even if it is not close, a blowout if the Dems crash and burn, I still say some areas will riot. Minneapolis, St Paul, Madison WI, San Francisco, etc.


41 posted on 09/11/2008 6:59:54 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder)
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To: ryan71

42 posted on 09/11/2008 6:59:59 PM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: 11th_VA
“From day one, we’ve been told to be a certain way, to be neat, intellectual, speak clearly. He is the symbol of what we were told to be by our parents and by society as a whole. If this doesn’t work, what does that do to our psyche?"

Okay, that does it. We must all vote for Obama in order to protect this guy's psyche.
43 posted on 09/11/2008 7:00:22 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: 11th_VA

I just don’t see it just cause McCain wins, certain factors would have to be in play for mass riots.


44 posted on 09/11/2008 7:00:51 PM PDT by cmsgop ( No "CHANGE"™ for you D.U.)
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To: 11th_VA

Oh my..I guess you could rephrase this article from the female perspective...What are we going to tell our daughters?

It may be that Gov. Palin has neutralized the race card with the possibility of the gender card.


45 posted on 09/11/2008 7:01:18 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: 11th_VA
“From day one, we’ve been told to be a certain way, to be neat, intellectual, speak clearly. He is the symbol of what we were told to be by our parents and by society as a whole. If this doesn’t work, what does that do to our psyche? What do I tell my sons?

Tell them that neat intellectual clear-speaking white guys have been losing elections since the nation began. Don't think you're special and entitled to win just because you're black and can speak English.

No matter what the hell we do, it doesn’t matter? We can only assimilate so far.”

Sorry buster, you haven't even begun to assimilate from what you had to say here.

46 posted on 09/11/2008 7:01:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 11th_VA
... said Robert Gordon, a 48-year-old engineering surveyor from Dallas. “From day one, we’ve been told to be a certain way, to be neat, intellectual, speak clearly. He is the symbol of what we were told to be by our parents and by society as a whole.

I wonder if mom and dad really told Robert as he was growing up that he should vote for someone who was neat, intellectual and speaks clearly.

While I agree that Robert, and all of us, should strive for that ideal, we should vote on the strength of ideas. You know, the old "content of his character" thing.

47 posted on 09/11/2008 7:01:32 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: 11th_VA
If their is civil unrest, it will not go softly like the rodney king riots. We have what it takes to restore civil order in a heartbeat. Never doubt.

LLS

48 posted on 09/11/2008 7:01:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except for dims!)
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To: 11th_VA
If Americans are afraid to stand up to terrorist in their own country we should lose it. I would rather die than to give in to this kind of scurrilous crap.
49 posted on 09/11/2008 7:01:46 PM PDT by gunnedah
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I have to wonder though, just how much enthusiasm is there for Obama, even in the black community? Of course he will get 90% of the vote there but when I drive through neighborhoods that are heavily African American I see few Obama signs or bumper stickers. Certainly there are none for McCain but I just have to wonder if the appeal is very wide but not that deep.


50 posted on 09/11/2008 7:01:57 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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