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Ron Paul Wants Off Montana Ballot
The Flathead Beacon ^ | September 11, 2008 | Matt Gouras

Posted on 09/11/2008 9:11:07 PM PDT by Night Conservative

HELENA – Republican Ron Paul does not want to be on the Montana ballot as the Constitution Party presidential candidate, but state election officials said Thursday it may be too late to remove his name.

Paul, in a letter to the secretary of state, said his name was nominated by the Constitution Party of Montana without his permission.

The secretary of state's office said there does not appear to be a provision to remove Paul's name at this point. At least some counties have started printing ballots, officials said.

"We have received the letter, and we are looking at the law. So far, we are not sure that the law allows for anything to be done about the situation," said agency spokesman Bowen Greenwood.

The Montana Constitution Party put Paul's name on the ballot earlier this week. Paul supporters said, at the time, that they had Paul's permission to do so.

In his letter dated Wednesday, Paul said he never wanted to be on the ballot. Paul lost a bid for the GOP presidential nomination earlier this year.

"While I certainly appreciate the Constitution Party of Montana's nomination, and all of the hard work of its members, I am writing to respectfully request that you remove my name from the ballot in Montana as I did not seek nor consent to this nomination," Paul wrote.

Paul also said the national Constitution Party candidate, Chuck Baldwin, should be on the ballot instead.

(Excerpt) Read more at flatheadbeacon.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: 2008; constitutionparty; mt2008; ronpaul; thirdparty

1 posted on 09/11/2008 9:11:07 PM PDT by Night Conservative
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To: Night Conservative

If only he were on the ballot in all 50 states.


2 posted on 09/11/2008 9:13:23 PM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Night Conservative

Good for Ron - common sense move.

This also relates the generic issue of ballot changes - i.e. Biden. Most states are well past the certified candidate deadline.


3 posted on 09/11/2008 9:14:00 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: Night Conservative

Paul at least has not taken the selfish tack of trying to be a spoiler. Ron Paul is an honest though I believe misguided man. Libertarians and Paul would be served much better if they joined John McCain. Paul would make a great FED chairman. :-)


4 posted on 09/11/2008 9:17:27 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Night Conservative

Maybe Brian Schweitzer can illegally remove his name from the ballot. Afterall he’s a self-described expert at election fraud.


5 posted on 09/11/2008 9:18:35 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Night Conservative

There were about 10 Ron Paul supporters in Livingston, MT today holding a big sign that said, “911 - Inside Job”


6 posted on 09/11/2008 9:19:17 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: Calculus_of_Consent

ROFLOL. The man’s a joke.


7 posted on 09/11/2008 9:20:35 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier, and enthusiastic supporter of McCain/Palin)
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To: Rennes Templar

8 posted on 09/11/2008 9:23:54 PM PDT by Pinkbell (”This guy is a jerk, an arrogant jerk. A Jerk Messiah.” - Rush talking about Obama)
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To: Night Conservative

Will he give Baldwin the two million he withheld from use in his campaign?

N O P E!


9 posted on 09/11/2008 9:24:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone (All Democrats must be rationed fuel to reduce their hypocrisy about global warming.)
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To: Night Conservative
Well, if Montana is claiming it may be too late to remove Paul from the ballot; how is Hillary going to replace Biden as rumored on the Internet?
10 posted on 09/11/2008 9:31:52 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: martinidon

Uh, she’s a democrat.


11 posted on 09/11/2008 9:55:43 PM PDT by null and void (When you bang your forehead on the ground five times a day, you get brain damage.)
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To: BlueNgold
This also relates the generic issue of ballot changes - i.e. Biden. Most states are well past the certified candidate deadline.

You got it!

12 posted on 09/11/2008 9:57:20 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Night Conservative

Hmmmmm......president of Montana.

I would take that job. There are more cows than people in Montana, and cows are pretty easy to govern.


13 posted on 09/11/2008 10:28:24 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (If you don't vote, you don't matter.)
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To: Gondring
California deadline - Sept 5

The days dwindle down to a precious few - Biden is on more and more ballots which cannot be changed...
14 posted on 09/11/2008 10:31:05 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Maelstorm

I’m not sure that Ron Paul could retain his seat as a Rebulican congressman in Texas and run as an independent for president.

But, as you said, he did keep his word and not run as an independent.

He just endorsed third party and independent candidates. That is a little strange...or bitter. I do understand where he is coming from. It would be nice to have a third party that is viable.


15 posted on 09/11/2008 10:53:33 PM PDT by berdie
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To: SoldierDad
McCain is a bad joke as well as Obama. I fail to any difference between the two.
16 posted on 09/11/2008 11:18:27 PM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: BlueNgold

....”Good for Ron - common sense move.”....

If it is, it is the first common sense he has showed.... EVER!


17 posted on 09/12/2008 11:08:30 PM PDT by Mtner77
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To: Calculus_of_Consent

Comparing the loser (it was our fault we were attacked on 9/11) R-U-N Paul as being anywhere close to where McCain is is pathetic. He may not be the “perfect” candidate, but until Jesus Christ comes back there will not be a “perfect” candidate.


18 posted on 09/13/2008 8:04:32 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier, and enthusiastic supporter of McCain/Palin)
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To: Calculus_of_Consent

So, you are going to propigate the propaganda of people in this country who hate this country? Go sell your hate someone else. Free Republic is not the venue for this type of garbage. This belongs on DU or KOS.


20 posted on 09/13/2008 2:05:45 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier, and enthusiastic supporter of McCain/Palin)
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To: SoldierDad

I love this Republic. I love the Constitution. I love what the founding fathers have bequeathed to us. I don’t want to see these things destroyed by people loyal to a foreign power and not the United States.


21 posted on 09/13/2008 2:09:28 PM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Calculus_of_Consent

Your earlier post belies your claim in this one. According to you this country is at fault for being attacked by these Islamic Jihadist who wish to dominate the entire planet. According to you, the United States is only interested in oil. Sell it on the street corner with the rest of the moonbats.


22 posted on 09/13/2008 2:47:11 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier, and enthusiastic supporter of McCain/Palin)
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
In the 15th century the same bunch of rag heads controlled the trade routs to the east. This gave them wealth and power. We in the west had made many costly and unsuccessful attempts at military invasion and occupation during the Crusades.

I have to admit that I stopped reading from the earlier post before I got to this statement. I wish that I had read all that you wrote before I responded. That way I could have derided you for being ignorant about history as well. WE IN THE WEST DID NOT EXIST DURING THE CRUSADES. This statement in and of itself is all that is needed by anyone to see you for what you are. TROLL.

23 posted on 09/13/2008 2:53:00 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier, and enthusiastic supporter of McCain/Palin)
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To: SoldierDad

Western Civilization, Western Europe, Christiandom, did not exist before the 15th Century? Richard the Loin Heart was a Chinaman I suppose?


24 posted on 09/13/2008 3:37:43 PM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Calculus_of_Consent; Jim Robinson

Richard the LOIN Heart? Um, perhaps you should go back to school. Christianity began approximately 2000 years ago, not after the 1500’s. If Christianity began after the 15th century, that would make it younger than Islam which was founded in the 7th century. However, as anyone with a small amount of education would tell you, Christianity is several hundred years older than Islam. Again you demonstrated yourself as nothing more than a simple minded foolish TROLL.


25 posted on 09/13/2008 4:20:39 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier, and enthusiastic supporter of McCain/Palin)
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To: SoldierDad

I was questioning you. I know that Western civilization existed before the 15th Century. You are the one who denied that.

Crusades
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Image The Crusades were expeditions undertaken, in fulfilment of a solemn vow, to deliver the Holy Places from Mohammedan tyranny.

The origin of the word may be traced to the cross made of cloth and worn as a badge on the outer garment of those who took part in these enterprises. Medieval writers use the terms crux (pro cruce transmarina, Charter of 1284, cited by Du Cange s.v. crux), croisement (Joinville), croiserie (Monstrelet), etc. Since the Middle Ages the meaning of the word crusade has been extended to include all wars undertaken in pursuance of a vow, and directed against infidels, i.e. against Mohammedans, pagans, heretics, or those under the ban of excommunication. The wars waged by the Spaniards against the Moors constituted a continual crusade from the eleventh to the sixteenth century; in the north of Europe crusades were organized against the Prussians and Lithuanians; the extermination of the Albigensian heresy was due to a crusade, and, in the thirteenth century the popes preached crusades against John Lackland and Frederick II. But modern literature has abused the word by applying it to all wars of a religious character, as, for instance, the expedition of Heraclius against the Persians in the seventh century and the conquest of Saxony by Charlemagne.

The idea of the crusade corresponds to a political conception which was realized in Christendom only from the eleventh to the fifteenth century; this supposes a union of all peoples and sovereigns under the direction of the popes. All crusades were announced by preaching. After pronouncing a solemn vow, each warrior received a cross from the hands of the pope or his legates, and was thenceforth considered a soldier of the Church. Crusaders were also granted indulgences and temporal privileges, such as exemption from civil jurisdiction, inviolability of persons or lands, etc. Of all these wars undertaken in the name of Christendom, the most important were the Eastern Crusades, which are the only ones treated in this article. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm

We (Western Civilization) did win some and lose some of these wars. At times Christians Europeans occupied these lands only to be driven out again. The point is at that time the only reason that the Muslim world was rich and powerful enough to put up a fight, was the fact that they controlled the trade routs that we (Christendom) depended. Once we found a way around those trade routs the power and wealth of those Muslim countries faded rapidly. Not until the 20th Century, did the Muslim start to regain its wealth because of our need for oil. Once again they controlled transportation. If we find a viable alternative to oil they will pose no threat to us as they follow their camels around the desert once more.

To put it in very simple terms that you can understand:

If we don’t need their oil, we win and our sons and daughters don’t have to die!


26 posted on 09/13/2008 5:00:02 PM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Calculus_of_Consent

....”To put it in very simple terms that you can understand:”....

Well, to put it very basic terms that YOU can’t seem to understand (as has been said to you at least twice already on this thread).

GO AWAY TROLL....


27 posted on 09/13/2008 10:33:42 PM PDT by Mtner77
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To: BigEdLB; WOSG

Doesn’t matter, I’m told by WOSG, for Texas.

That’s just the statute, but the Secretary of State can ignore the statute and decide by fiat, and the infallible courts will decide that’s okay.


28 posted on 09/14/2008 9:16:19 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Night Conservative

And he had the state in the bag.


29 posted on 09/14/2008 9:20:54 PM PDT by xone
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
McCain is a bad joke as well as Obama. I fail to any difference between the two.

Had your eyes checked lately? Or a brain scan? I don't think a scan would show any cognitive ability.

I know you got the boot, but I bet you're reading responses. You probably approve of the William Ayres connections to 0bama.

Enjoy the loss in November.

30 posted on 09/14/2008 9:30:11 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Night Conservative

Ron is trying to stay out of McCain’s way, without openly saying so.


31 posted on 09/14/2008 9:36:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
"and cows are pretty easy to govern."

About a month ago, I tried to run off about 15 or 20 unwelcome cattle and their calves. They were not easy to govern :o(

32 posted on 09/14/2008 9:42:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: Gondring

That is very bad form. Stop putting words in my mouth.


33 posted on 09/15/2008 5:47:32 AM PDT by WOSG (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: editor-surveyor

Ron Paul lives on planet earth, but some of his supporters apparently do not.


34 posted on 09/15/2008 5:49:39 AM PDT by WOSG (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Night Conservative

The libertarian vote played a major role in Tester defeating Burns. Jones got 3% of the vote.


35 posted on 09/15/2008 5:53:31 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: xone
And he had the state in the bag.

Paul did do better than McCain in the Montana caucus; finishing in second place behind only Mitt Romney.

36 posted on 09/15/2008 12:37:10 PM PDT by Night Conservative (Sarah Palin for Vice President in 2008.)
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To: Night Conservative
Montana caucus

Let me know when he does it in a format, where anyone who wants to, votes.

37 posted on 09/15/2008 1:23:25 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone

Sore loser.


38 posted on 09/15/2008 1:49:04 PM PDT by Night Conservative (Sarah Palin for Vice President in 2008.)
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To: Calculus_of_Consent

You are hell bent on trying to equate the United States of America with the Roman Empire and the British Empire of the 1500’s and earlier. You have done nothing but compare an apple to an orange and tried to call them both a kumquat. Your argument is specious at best and a bald face lie at the worst. You have zero facts to back up your claim that the war in Iraq is only about oil (other that the claims of people who are so far to the left as to be ridiculed for any comments that issue from their mouth).

I didn’t deny anything. You have tried through semantics to tie the United States with events which you don’t even understand in the first place. The Crusades were not a failure. Go back to school and study this time period and what took place, then get back to me. You don’t seem to have any understanding that three times in human history after the ascention of Islam there have been three one hundred years wars that were caused by Islamic uprising which were put down. The Crusades was but one of those events. We are now in the fourth installment of a 100 years war to put down yet another Islamic uprising. You would know that if you would take time to study history. But you are only interested is spewing forth your liberal hatred of this nation. Go Away TROLL


39 posted on 09/16/2008 8:45:38 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier, and enthusiastic supporter of McCain/Palin)
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