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To: wideawake
“These two are guilty, period.

The more immigration reform advocates cling to these two losers, the more unhinged and less focused they become. “

Do you have no sympathy for them? I actually agree that they screwed up. I think it is really unfortunate that they got charged under that stupid firearms statue with the ten year mandatory minimum though. I do not think this is the type of conduct Congress intended to punish when they wrote that vague statute, and I think the prosecutors were jerks for even filing under it. This is all typical though. Prosecutors heap on the charges, stretch the laws as far as possible to add more charges, and then punish people who do not shut up and plead. I bet these two could have pled out on misdemeanor charges.

21 posted on 09/12/2008 6:27:30 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz
Do you have no sympathy for them? I actually agree that they screwed up.

I have absolutely zero sympathy for Compean. He is a contemptible toad.

I believe that Ramos actually thought he was defending a fellow officer - but instead of doing the right thing after he realized this was not the case, he stuck by Compean's lies rather than honor his oblighation to the public trust.

In my personal opinion, Ramos' sentence was too harsh and Compean's sentence was far too light.

42 posted on 09/12/2008 6:55:06 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: TKDietz
“Do you have no sympathy for them? I actually agree that they screwed up. I think it is really unfortunate that they got charged under that stupid firearms statue with the ten year mandatory minimum though.”

Meanwhile swat teams can break into the wrong house, shoot innocent people, and not only do they not go to jail or lose their jobs, they don't even have to apologize to the victims family. I guess Mexican drug smugglers are more important than innocent Americans, at least to the Bush administration.

45 posted on 09/12/2008 7:11:35 AM PDT by monday
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To: TKDietz
This is total nonsense. This scummy little drug dealer wrestled with one of the officers before breaking away and running for the border. He then turned and appeared to point a shiny object at the officers. It totally strains ones credulity that a drug dealer would cross the desert without carrying a gun. People that knew this scum bag have stated that he always had a gun with him. Since he succeeded in crossing back into Mexico, there is no way for the government to prove that he was unarmed except by taking the drug dealer's word over that of the border agents. Sutton then conspired with the judge in the case to keep the jury from hearing the evidence that this career criminal was caught bringing in another load of drugs and was not the innocent dupe that the prosecution portrayed him as. Upon hearing the actual facts of the case, several members of the jury have gone on record stating that they would have never convicted the agents had they known the truth. Several supervisors were on the scene shortly after the incident and were fully aware that the agents had shot at the perp believing that their lives were in danger. It was up to them to file a report according to Border Patrol policy. This case was a travesty of justice from beginning to end.
291 posted on 09/15/2008 10:03:26 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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