Posted on 09/12/2008 4:01:22 PM PDT by PhatHead
If I can recall Obama even admitted that he knew nothing if little at all in Arabic. Yet the problem we face is that whether that admittance by him that he couldn’t remember Arabic was a lie or not. Perhaps it is sort of like the campaign’s overture on Obama’s religion when he went to Indonesia which they denied but we found out that he was/is(possibly) a Muslim.
Time for another 'long hand' President...McCain/Palin '08
Apparently, Zero doesn’t let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ ad.
He IS Muslim. In fact, was in an interview with George Stephanopolis last week where Obama made the satement, “McCain has never said anything derogatory about my Muslim religion.”
In response, George whispered, “Christian religion.”
Obama: “..my Muslim re..”
George: “Christian religion. Your Christian religion.”
Obama: My..uh...Christi...myuh...well...”
Yah it was on YouTube, but I didn’t save it, and there were some conjectures as to how long it would be there.
There is even talk of him being born in Kenya, since he has a birth certificate from there. Of course, MSM describes it as “an ‘honorary’ birth certificate, since his father is from Kenya.”
I will believe YouTube before I believe MSM and the Dems. YouTube caught the interview, fair and square and it’s been circulating.
I wonder, though. Is Obama really "fluent in Arabic".
There are reports that he can recite the call to prayer. He can probably recall some passages from the Koran.
But I recall other reports referencing his chiding of the American people for their limited French -- remember "Merci beaucoup") -- stating that he himself didn't speak a second language.
Moreover, Obama had very limited exposure to his Kenyan father...
They separated when he [Obama] was two years old and later divorced.[3] Obama's father returned to Kenya and saw him only once more before dying in an automobile accident in 1982. From Wikipedia.
Doesn't it seem unlikely that he would've learned Arabic from his father in this time frame?
On the other hand, Obama spent ages 6-10 (1967-71) living in Indonesia in his step-father's household. In retrospect, it seems more likely that he might have learned Bahar Indonesia from his step-father than Arabic from his true father.
Without lipstick.
PRICELESS
Great points. If I’m a member of a group with disabilities I’m asking for an apology from Obama. Force him to stand up and apology for this heartless attack.
The story is definitely out there now, and Zero will look mighty foolish. Again.
Sure would be great to join them just this once in a victory celebration, wouldn't it! I mean, while he may not even think of himself this way, he is a DAV! And he certainly would have their back, moreso than Zero!
I’m not too fond of Wikipedia, mostly because I’ve seen mistakes there. So I try not to use it.
Obama is a liar. That much we know. If he lies about his ethnicity in order to get into Harvard under Affirmative Action, and lies about his income as well as the names of the people who back him, how much of what he says is actually truthful?
As much as I’ve read about the man, I have yet to read something redeeming. He wants to preserve abortions so his daughters don’t have to be burdened with a baby they don’t want. This, instead of teaching his daughters about chastity.
The list goes on. He is backed by some funding from Iran, and I suspect Putin is in the fray, somewhere. Why else would he attack Georgia before a presidential election in this country? Because he had information that Obama was a shoe-in, and because of Obama’s cowardice, Russia and Islam could have an open country.
My opinions, of course. As I said: I’ve read enough to know the man is scary because of his lack of a spine.
Obama, lets see if you can use a keyboard after we put you in a cage and beat you - like the VC did to McCain. you are a jerk, B. Hussien O.
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The sort of enigma of Obama, and his creation as a political figure is indeed a mysterious venue. I really do think that, and this infamous gaffe that Obama made about his faith should be a much bigger issue than it is at the moment. It is actually way bigger than the lipstick on a pig. If George S. has to correct Obama on his faith, what else is Obama hiding from us? I do find it interesting when he talked about how the political winds should shift and how he would side with the Muslims.
What Muslims would he be talking about? The AQ breed, the more reformist Muslims like Walid Shoebat? That is the problem. I really do think that there is something about the NOI, the Destruction at all costs type of Muslims and Obama. Just to note I really don’t think that Obama is a Christian, when Evangelicals used to be Anti-Slavery it was in the vein of what is best for humanity and God’s children, not the eeeevil white people and a strange interpretation on how Jesus lived. It was that these people were slaves whether they were black or white and that was wrong.
Jerry Wright, Obama’s spiritual mouthpiece, however doesn’t preach theology or even rival theologies but preaches bigotry and hatred. Not only that but there were Muslims still in that “Church”, and that same Church championed Farrakhan because they love racial kooks as long as they are the right skin color(in essence I wouldn’t even call it a Church since racialism has no place in religion. I would call it the KKK of Blacks as I don’t believe that devout Christians would burn crosses. That is like burning our flag.). It was also Obama who used the sermon on the Mount to champion Homosexual Civil Unions which I find to be bizzare, and he is absolutely for abortion.
It is really easy to confuse your faith when it only takes a slight foot to anything related to Islam.
PIMF: Foot- Footstep
Obama would side with the Muslims because he is one.
“Reverend” Wright preaches hatred and champions Farrakhan because he is a Muslim supporter who makes money hating America.
The MSM is glossing things over so America will vote for Obama, though why they want that flannel-mouthed empty suit is beyond me. We need people like Rush and his ilk to get this stuff out to the world, and back here, at home, we need to build a fire under people and show them what Patriotism really means.
I’m not willing to have my grandchildren dress in burkhas, go to Hadrassa, or speak Arabic. Period. My ancestors didn’t die so an Arab could sell the country to the lowest bidder.
My faith will never be confused with a doctrine of hatred. It may impress some people, but hatred begets hatred, and it will not be over until the haters are shown that their way is wrong.
I don’t like the number of traitors that are allowed to function in this country during wartime ~ like Code Pink, Murtha, Michael Moore, George Clooney, Jane Fonda, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy...the list goes on.
Now I’ll shut up! ;o]
I tend to agree. I don't think he's really a Christian -- Trinity UCC was no more than Michelle's church and a cred point on his political resume'.
However, I kind doubt he's really a Muslim, either. I'd go for atheist, myself.
His dad was a non-practicing Muslim. His mother was a committed atheist...and, later, a New Age "spiritualist". His childhood "mentor", Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist...and an atheist.
His step-father probably tried to raise him as a Muslim, but I doubt it took.
More likely, Obama is a closet atheist...and a Christian of convenience, with a greater knowledge of Islam than of Christianity.
Please don’t shut up, besides the fact that this thread isn’t even frontpage.
I will quote and answer paragraph by paragraph.
“Obama would side with the Muslims because he is one.
“Reverend” Wright preaches hatred and champions Farrakhan because he is a Muslim supporter who makes money hating America.”
I believe that my problem with Obama is if he believed in Republicanism and was a Republican I would accept him. But because he is a Democrat he is very vulnerable to the victimhood strategies and has adopted a few of them as his own. This victimhood that scorches his skin than leads him to those who preach hatred which make him more volatile with his Islamic ties. I mean this guy is a powder keg. If he was a Republican he would possibly be immune to the victimhood strategies and would try his best to have people on his staff who are not whacky or Anti-Israel. Unfortunately, and ironically, a member of AQ would become a member of the Democrats if they registered to vote here.
Thereby meaning that his political party is very important in finding out who this guy is and how terrible he will be. As I said members of Hezbollah, AQ, and Hamas would be Democrats if they lived here.
“The MSM is glossing things over so America will vote for Obama, though why they want that flannel-mouthed empty suit is beyond me. We need people like Rush and his ilk to get this stuff out to the world, and back here, at home, we need to build a fire under people and show them what Patriotism really means.”
Tis simple. I have proposed this theory: The Democrats are rushing in Obama so that they can exert for the first time a Radical Liberal into the Oval Office. We all know about Obama’s radical idea about Abortion that most of his Black Community doesn’t believe in.
Yet because he is a “moment of history” the American public will pass the Liberal agenda so as to look enlightened. The problem is that Americans are not primarily Affirmative Action people. They are not blind(especially us Republicans) and I bet you that many of them hate how the Media is painting voting for Obama as being PC and the thing to do. That is partially why I hate the Obama candidacy.
“I’m not willing to have my grandchildren dress in burkhas, go to Hadrassa, or speak Arabic. Period. My ancestors didn’t die so an Arab could sell the country to the lowest bidder.”
If I am correct it is a madrassa, but I might not be. It isn’t a big deal if one is raised Muslim. To me, however, it is if we are fighting a War on Terror against the hive NATO syndrome that Muslims have and we could be having somebody with Muslim ties and Radical Black Nationalism ties right now. He also happens to be a Democrat so he probably believes deeply in these ties rather than avoids them his whole entire life. This is how Black America feels and thinks, and how Muslims act, to Obama. I am not willing.
“My faith will never be confused with a doctrine of hatred. It may impress some people, but hatred begets hatred, and it will not be over until the haters are shown that their way is wrong.
I don’t like the number of traitors that are allowed to function in this country during wartime ~ like Code Pink, Murtha, Michael Moore, George Clooney, Jane Fonda, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy...the list goes on.
Now I’ll shut up! ;o]”
I agree, Obama got his first ideas of how the American Public feels when it comes to preaching racial hatred in a Church. Now all of those people in there know that they will have an albatross around their neck if they ever do want to run for President. That is the great lesson of this election season: Black Racism is just as wrong as White Racism. And I think that some have learned that.
See: the thing is that you get at least many of your moral beliefs from the Bible, Jerry gets his moral beliefs from “feeling” that Jesus was this or that, so does Obama. You don’t because the Bible doesn’t say anything about blacks, whites, yellows or reds. The Bible preaches about ethics and not ethnics.
Hey I don’t like the Left-Wing fools also. Yet even in WWII we did have a few shmucks preaching for the other side, difference was they felt ashamed about doing that. Kerry, Fonda and the like are more like Joe Kennedy who I don’t recall ever felt shame at holding Hitler in such high regard. Remember even literary intellectual Gertrude Stein of the Lost Generation remarked that Hitler was more exciting than FDR. As long as we don’t listen to those fools who will always say dumb things before, during and after our wars and keep our beliefs steadfast we will make sure that these fools are only branded as useful idiots. Even Rosie O’ is now a buzzword for a Hollywood jackass.
Now I probably should zip my gums myself. I have talked too much, it was nice discussing with you about Obama’s enigma.
Oops now I’ll get flamed for my post. How do you bold or italicize quotes? That would be much better than the mess it looks.
Thanks for the discussion!
I think between the two of us, we probably solved the problems for America in one afternoon!
And it’s time I get off here, anyway. I’m getting hungry.
See ya around!
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