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Bailouts Will Push US into Depression: Manager
CNBC ^ | 09/11/08

Posted on 09/13/2008 3:58:45 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Debt will be growing. If we have to worry about $300b only, it would be OK. However, taxpayers would be saddled with more burden of bailout. We will have more banks to bail out. FDIC will be called in, and its reserve has to be replenished by taxpayers.

There would be institution which can't be bailed out. They will go under.

All these would lead to depression, whether U.S. gov could be bankrupt or not in a technical sense. Public debt is one of the problems. If government would shore up all failing institutions, it could go bankrupt. If not, institutions will go bankrupt, causing depression on its own.

If Fed allow unlimited lending for failing institutions, we could see huge inflation. We are boxed in. We are basically tapped out.

21 posted on 09/13/2008 5:20:41 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Sorry. Not buying into it. Feel free to worry on my behalf, though. :)


22 posted on 09/13/2008 5:22:14 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

>>>FDIC will be called in

What does ‘called in’ mean?


23 posted on 09/13/2008 5:28:58 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I don't worry about you since you have gold and silver reserve.

With so much public and private debt, people still think that it will somehow all disappear after a couple of years of a run-of-the-mill recession.

It is the same kind of attitude which ran Bear Stearns, Fannie and Freddie, and Lehman into the ground. You may escape this problem but lots of others won't.

24 posted on 09/13/2008 5:29:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Caipirabob
I am, and I agree with you. The big problem is not the 300 billion, it's that we empowering our government to reward losers. The health of a business, or an industry or an economy depends on feedback. Smart people "win" and foolish or imprudent people "lose". That's what makes capitalism so powerful.

But in this case we are telling imprudent people that it's OK to be that way and denying them the chance to learn from this mistake.

Other foolish people are learning this lesson too. And obtaining the "too big to fail" status will now become a goal of all companies. Expect much poor reasoning to ensue.

25 posted on 09/13/2008 5:31:28 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: Calpernia
I am talking about FDIC insurance. If a bank fails, FDIC should pay deposit insurance up to $100K per depositor, compensating the lost money at a bank account.
26 posted on 09/13/2008 5:31:50 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yes, that’s my plan. And I don’t know why others aren’t on board.

I chalk it up to Americans being uneducated, manipulated, financially over-extended sheep.

As I said, I certainly don’t wish any ill on my fellow Freepers, but it’s every wo/man for her/himself these days.

And that’s how it always SHOULD have been.

I, for one, am tired of pulling this wagon overloaded with liberal losers who contribute NOTHING, to quote their favorite slogan, “for the greater good.” ;)


27 posted on 09/13/2008 5:32:51 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Would a federal bankruptcy be all bad? It would be a great way to start fresh, with a stripped down budget thereafter.

Not an optimal choice, certainly, but a minimal federal government may not happen any other way.

28 posted on 09/13/2008 5:33:57 AM PDT by Mediocrates
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To: Nathan Zachary

Along with the estimated half-trillion deficit spending in 2008 and who knows what for 2009...

a billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon it’s real money.

Hey, how do you like paying your tax dollars to pay for Fanny/Freddie executive bonuses in 2007, when rampant fraud was occurring ? For myself, if taxpayers are being asked to foot the bill I want to see perp walks and jailtime.


29 posted on 09/13/2008 5:34:20 AM PDT by nicola_tesla ("Life is Tough... It's Worse When You're Stupid".... John Wayne)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I did know FDIC was the insurance. I just didn’t understand the expression, ‘called in’. Thanks!


30 posted on 09/13/2008 5:35:43 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Don’t pay attention to the naysayers on this site. Many of them were discounting the housing/subprime mess 3 years ago saying it would never be a problem....


31 posted on 09/13/2008 5:45:17 AM PDT by am452 (Pres Bush: Why more importance on protecting Georgias border than our own?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Will you marry me?


32 posted on 09/13/2008 5:49:05 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Just remember: EVERY “expert” tagged the “S&L” bailout at more than $800 billion. Every one. It came in at half that, without (I might add) a real blip in the economy) and would have been 1/10th that if the banks had held onto their real estate just 2-3 years longer.


33 posted on 09/13/2008 5:49:36 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: am452

I know. According to them, we should not have subprime mess. Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Lehman Brothers should be still flying high now. But Bear Stearns was absorbed by JP Morgan, Fannie and Freddie were nationalized, their stock worth less than a dollar per share. Lehman is facing break-up.


34 posted on 09/13/2008 5:51:06 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

But the Democrats will save us. They will raise taxes, raise taxes and raise taxes. Those three things should give the 40% low income class, free College, “greener” jobs, etc,,,.

The “rich” won’t care that they will only take home 30% of their earnings. They will still have enough left to live on.

(Looks like “Grimm’s Fairy Tales” is back in vogue.)


35 posted on 09/13/2008 5:55:25 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Sara Palin; The Orca in a bay of Democrat Belugas!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Of course, they won't. They will just fool you into another scam.
36 posted on 09/13/2008 5:57:33 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Nathan Zachary
thank you...
37 posted on 09/13/2008 6:04:51 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - McCain/Palin'08 = http://www.johnmccain.com/)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Will not bankrupt the nation. Gezzz..

Anyone know how much the Fed has loaned out the windows starting with Bear-Sterns?

38 posted on 09/13/2008 6:08:27 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Not really. With the bailout (remains to be seen) of both Freddie and Fannie (trillions in assets/liabilities) bank closures, home foreclosures, and the House talking auto industry bailout, ... the Big D is possible. Our government cannot sustain these types of hits without significant increases in revenues (read: taxes). With increases in taxes, you get greater unemployment, less productivity, lower consumerism. Can we allow these industry giants to fold? Maybe. A good analogy are these new drugs comming to market... where the side effects are worst than the ailment.


39 posted on 09/13/2008 6:20:53 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: TigerLikesRooster

My take is that this guy is trying to scare people into his Asia fund (which is apparently getting hammered).

That being said, I think the Government is on shakey ground with these massive bailouts. At some point, we will have to pay the piper and then all bets are off. We have adopted a “compassionate” philosophy where no one can feel and pain, so ultimately we will all end up with a hangover.


40 posted on 09/13/2008 6:21:58 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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