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Russian jet crash kills all 88 on board (former Russian commander in Chechnya killed)
AFP ^ | 09/14/08

Posted on 09/14/2008 2:30:01 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Russian jet crash kills all 88 on board

Photo: AFP

PERM, Russia (AFP) - An Aeroflot Boeing-737 jet crashed near a Ural mountains city Sunday killing all 88 passengers and crew on board, after reportedly catching fire in the sky, the airline said.

There were 21 foreigners and seven children on the jet which came down as it prepared to land in Perm on a flight from Moscow. The wreckage cut off the Trans-Siberian railway.

"It was burning while still in the sky and it looked like a falling comet," one female witness told Russia's Vesti-24 television.

The jet narrowly missed a main residential area as it fell shortly after 5:00 am (2300 GMT Saturday).

Aeroflot confirmed there were no survivors and said the dead included nine people from Azerbaijan, five from Ukraine and one each from France, Germany, Italy, Latvia, Switzerland, and Turkey.

One passenger was also said to be American but US officials were reportedly checking that information.

(Excerpt) Read more at asia.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crash; jet; planecrash; russia; troshev
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1 posted on 09/14/2008 2:30:01 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: MarMema; AdmSmith

Ping!


2 posted on 09/14/2008 2:30:23 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Darnski.


3 posted on 09/14/2008 2:33:56 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ('When a man believes that any stick will do, he at once picks up a boomerang,')
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To: TigerLikesRooster

http://i38.tinypic.com/zjcyh1.jpg

This is the airplane.


5 posted on 09/14/2008 2:50:25 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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I wonder if the guy was the Russian Ron Brown.


6 posted on 09/14/2008 3:04:15 AM PDT by freeplancer
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To: F15Eagle
Sounds like terrorism.

Funny how nobody ever talks about the Flight 587 crash in Queens on November 12, 2001 which killed 262.

Almost certainly a shoe bomb, the NTSB just covered it up.

Like it never even happened.

7 posted on 09/14/2008 3:07:10 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000

One would think that the Jihadists would be happy to take the credit if they were the perps.


8 posted on 09/14/2008 3:24:54 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (PUMA))
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To: Rome2000

How does a shoe bomb cause the rudder to snap off?


9 posted on 09/14/2008 3:26:54 AM PDT by DB
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To: Rome2000
“Sounds like terrorism.
Funny how nobody ever talks about the Flight 587 crash in Queens on November 12, 2001 which killed 262.
Almost certainly a shoe bomb, the NTSB just covered it up.”

I recall that the crash of 587 was a result of a jack screw problem.

Seems it ran the elevator to the limit and still kept turning, stripping itself.

10 posted on 09/14/2008 3:29:01 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: DB
Puhleez, are you trying to say just an amazing coincidence?.

That POS Blakely was saying it wasn't terrorism hours after the accident, and they concocted a story to make it so.

Lots of eyewitnesses heard a bang and the thing came down in flames.

Because the Pilot had a heavy foot?

You have got to be kidding.

11 posted on 09/14/2008 3:32:49 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000

That’s why the rudder landed on the ground long before the plane did...


12 posted on 09/14/2008 3:36:06 AM PDT by DB
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Watch the Russians blame someone like the Georgians or Ukrainians.


13 posted on 09/14/2008 3:39:55 AM PDT by syriacus (Calling humans "pigs" is second-nature for anti-war radicals, Black Panthers + radical Islamists.)
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To: DB

“That’s why the rudder landed on the ground long before the plane did...”

Losing the rudder would not generally cause an aircraft to crash on take-off (or at any other time). Losing a rudder would only impact the aircraft’s turning ability, but it would have next to nothing to do with the aircraft’s ability to get aloft and stay there.


14 posted on 09/14/2008 3:42:02 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: syriacus
Medvedev said that Georgia crisis was Russia's 9/11. Now a plane crash. If he wants a conspiracy theory out of it, he could.
15 posted on 09/14/2008 3:43:28 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Rome2000

...because nobody believed that their could be another weird fatal crash out of JFK involving an aircraft load of innocents put into the ground by muslims. And since that one I think someone caught on because there hasn’t been another.

Egypt Air, and a couple of others comes to mind.

BUT..

Then there is this http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/Safety_Issues/others/airbusfatalflaws.html


16 posted on 09/14/2008 3:44:13 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: ought-six

Wrong.


17 posted on 09/14/2008 3:46:54 AM PDT by DB
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To: ought-six

(Continuing) A rudder would aid in take-off if there was a flank wind that created a drift or yaw in the aircraft’s flight, but it would just keep the aircraft headed in the desired direction and not affect lift.


18 posted on 09/14/2008 3:47:01 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

Let me rephrase that.

Dead wrong.


19 posted on 09/14/2008 3:47:55 AM PDT by DB
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To: ought-six

Losing the rudder would not generally cause an aircraft to crash on take-off (or at any other time). Losing a rudder would only impact the aircraft’s turning ability,

Unfortunately they didn’t lose just the rudder. They lost the entire vertical stabilizer, hence no or very little lateral control, besides being fly by wire, which might have been of some value had the computer been programmed to compensate for the loss which I’m betting was never thought of.


20 posted on 09/14/2008 3:49:08 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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