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Oversampled Dems by 11 pts. Help me out with what this means.
1 posted on 09/14/2008 11:57:45 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary
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To: Anti-Hillary

If they need to oversample to get their desired result...I’d say we are probably ahead. The gap is closing in Washington so Oregon’s should be also.


2 posted on 09/14/2008 12:00:07 PM PDT by 1035rep (McCain/Palin 08)
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I think it means they are desperate to create a poll that shows Obama winning somewhere.

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3 posted on 09/14/2008 12:00:33 PM PDT by chaos_5 (See my profile for cool McCain/Palin "lipstick" stickers!)
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Oregon I'd write off because of Portland and Eugene. The rural hinterland doesn't have enough votes to overcome the edge in the coastal Democratic cities!

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4 posted on 09/14/2008 12:01:23 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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My guess is this poll, like many others, weights its results according to party identification numbers. Those numbers have favored Dems for a few years, but recently the GOP has been playing catchup and may be close to the Dems now.

This poll does not seem to be accounting for the recent GOP surge, either unintentionally or intentionally.

6 posted on 09/14/2008 12:03:43 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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They have oversampled Republicans in this poll. The current party id in the state is 56%-42% D-R.

http://www.sos.state.or.us/elections/votreg/jul08.pdf

8 posted on 09/14/2008 12:04:42 PM PDT by nwrep (Obama - the first Mohammedan to run for the White House)
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Kind of an old poll.....through 9/9 only?


9 posted on 09/14/2008 12:06:45 PM PDT by bioprof (STRATEGERY!)
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If it was a national poll it would be oversampling. This is an Oregon poll, certainly in Oregon there are a higher percentage of Rats vs. the National average. This result is probably in line to Oregon's voting pattern of the last 12 years
10 posted on 09/14/2008 12:07:32 PM PDT by DAC21
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I would guess that the Democrat/Republican breakdown probably accurately reflects the actual registration percentage in the state.

It's Independents who are way under-sampled. I recall reading (and I may be mistaken) that something like 40% of Oregon voters are independent.

McCain/Palin might do better than expected in the Portland suburbs. If they do, it might be very close.

Still a hard road. Even in a McCain landslide, I would expect Oregon to go Obama.

12 posted on 09/14/2008 12:12:01 PM PDT by mojito
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I would be very surprised if Oregon went McCain/Palin. McCain Palin may considerably close the gap on Obama/Biden, but the state is solid blue.
14 posted on 09/14/2008 12:12:41 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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“Not unlike most of the nation, McCain fared best in the more rural areas, while Obama enjoyed his strongest support in the more populous cities of Portland and Eugene. The random sample of 600 Oregon voters took into account increased registrations among Democrats, particularly in the Tri-County area. Statewide, the poll surveyed 46% democrats, 35% republicans and 20% unaffiliated voters.”

Conservatives need a ‘get out the vote’ registration effort in Oregon.


17 posted on 09/14/2008 12:20:54 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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They oversample Dems by 11% because that is probably the way the registration of voters breaks down. I don't think that the 11% oversampling of Dems it too far out of line.

Oregon is NOT going to vote for McCain, so I don't think we need to get excited about McCain's chances there.

Reps need to guard against overconfidence in this race. The Palin phenomenon will fade when the the end of month is here and the “debates” start. Then it will be issues that will matter to people.

19 posted on 09/14/2008 12:21:39 PM PDT by CapnJack
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Oversampled Dems by 11 pts.

Oversampled in national terms, maybe, but did they oversample in Oregonian terms?

20 posted on 09/14/2008 12:23:36 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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The sample represents the percentages of the Oregon electorate and it would not be reflective of the real outcome any other way. They must do that in every poll or it is not an accurate poll. I’ll bet if you did New York 50% 50% you might get McCain a little ahead in New York.


23 posted on 09/14/2008 12:32:15 PM PDT by Dagny Taggart
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Alas, we are seeing the result of “Californication” of Oregon and Washington, and to an extent Idaho and Nevada. Once liberal governance made living in California less appealing, (it really got in gear in the ‘80s) they started moving up to Oregon and Washington. Guess what...they brought their liberal politics with them.

This is the result.


27 posted on 09/14/2008 12:56:21 PM PDT by poindexter
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If Obama can’t win Oregon, he is finished. That’s like McCain losing Kansas.


28 posted on 09/14/2008 1:00:29 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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"Oversampled Dems by 11 pts. Help me out with what this means."

It means they don't want to tell the truth. They just want to keep scam going.

30 posted on 09/14/2008 1:10:41 PM PDT by StormEye
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Some pollsters go by party registration to get the mix of voters they want. Others use historical numbers. It really is to try to be more accurate not to fudge the results.


34 posted on 09/14/2008 1:36:30 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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Lots of indies and even GOP switched to Dem just to vote in the primary. I almost did the same thing but I decided I didn’t want to be bugged by whoever won the primary for campaign money to the end of time.


36 posted on 09/14/2008 1:49:11 PM PDT by GoSarah
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Oversampled Dems by 11 pts. Help me out with what this means.

In Maryland, that sounds about right.

46 posted on 09/14/2008 2:42:14 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Oversampled Dems by 11 pts. Help me out with what this means.

In Maryland, that sounds about right.

47 posted on 09/14/2008 2:48:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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