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Police Illegally Taped Nursing Home Sex, Wisconsin Court Rules
AP ^ | 11 Sep 2008 | AP

Posted on 09/14/2008 12:43:42 PM PDT by BGHater

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To: BGHater

I did not need to know this.


21 posted on 09/14/2008 1:11:23 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: BGHater

Oh come on. Ggggurgle, ick and spew.


22 posted on 09/14/2008 1:17:56 PM PDT by loungeSerf (Freedom Sucks! Obama 08)
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To: BGHater

“believes her sister’s husband was merely expressing his love for his wife and was trying everything he could to bring her back to consciousness”

My first thought when I read the headline was exactly what the sister said. Obviously a lot of people on this forum have not felt a devastating partial loss of a loved one with all the accompanying feelings and emotions that occur. I was raised and taught that sex was the ultimate display of love. Should we prosecute a husband that kisses his comatose wife, washes her body or cleans her soiled diapers?


23 posted on 09/14/2008 1:22:29 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Cyman

I found it interesting that his Wife wasn’t also in the court decision for invading ‘her’ Privacy as well, not just his.


24 posted on 09/14/2008 1:25:51 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: BGHater

My wife is comatose in bed too, whats the big deal?


25 posted on 09/14/2008 1:27:41 PM PDT by Selmore (You want fries with that?)
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To: BGHater
I found it interesting that his Wife wasn’t also in the court decision for invading ‘her’ Privacy as well, not just his.

No, the issue is that the husband is being tried for rape or sexual assault or something. His attorney is arguing that the tape should be suppressed because the police had no right to place surveillance on him because it violated his Fourth Amendment right to privacy.

Personally, that's bullsnot. You have no expectation of privacy in a hospital room of another person.

26 posted on 09/14/2008 1:28:05 PM PDT by jude24
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Your right. But,wouldn’t ‘he’ be the ‘guardian’ at this point do to her being comatose. Weird. Thus, would it be his call?


27 posted on 09/14/2008 1:32:14 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: jude24

Hey Jude,

If you were comatose and the situations were reversed, your wife came to visit you. Would you find it so offensive? Sometimes you hear of cases where comatose people are more aware than they seem.


28 posted on 09/14/2008 1:32:14 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (Sarah Palin: pro-life, pro-guns, pro-family, anti-government corruption!)
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To: jude24

“Why not? We men don’t have an absolute right to sex with our wives - they still have to consent. Our wives are not just our property to do what we want with.”

I agree. I think police should wire bedrooms with videocamera and have breathalyser equipment handy to make sure that wives can consent without impairment.


29 posted on 09/14/2008 1:32:27 PM PDT by sagar
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If you were comatose and the situations were reversed, your wife came to visit you. Would you find it so offensive? Sometimes you hear of cases where comatose people are more aware than they seem.

The law doesn't care. If a person cannot communicate their assent or dissent, it's rape. See, for example 18 U.S.C. 2242(2)(B) - that statute defines "sexual abuse" as "engaging in a sexual act with another when that other person is... physically incapable of declining participation in, or communicating unwillingness to engage in, that sexual act." That is punishable by life imprisonment. Most states have similar provisions.

30 posted on 09/14/2008 1:43:56 PM PDT by jude24
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To: sagar
I think police should wire bedrooms with videocamera and have breathalyser equipment handy to make sure that wives can consent without impairment.

That's a different issue.

31 posted on 09/14/2008 1:44:50 PM PDT by jude24
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To: BGHater

This is just wrong on about every level you can imagine.

1) Why is the hospital installing cameras—did they find, um, pecker tracks in this chicks bed and wonder from where they came? [pun intended]

2) This loser is banging a comatose chick? No, I don’t care that it’s his wife. What kind of sick freak does this?


32 posted on 09/14/2008 1:46:15 PM PDT by j-damn
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GARP


33 posted on 09/14/2008 1:51:03 PM PDT by Selmore (You want fries with that?)
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


34 posted on 09/14/2008 1:51:31 PM PDT by onedoug ( Barracuda!)
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To: BGHater
From ABC

 

Johnson's attorney Christopher Kelly said his client would visit the woman he married in 1988 every day, reading her the Bible and moving her arms and legs so her muscles wouldn't atrophy. The woman's sister, who is now her legal guardian, is upset that prosecutors brought charges against him, Kelly said.

"She believes her sister's husband was merely expressing his love for his wife and was trying everything he could to bring her back to consciousness," Kelly said.

If true and I was on the jury I don't believe I could find it in myself to convct him

 

 



35 posted on 09/14/2008 1:51:33 PM PDT by grjr21
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To: BGHater

I don’t know what to think. It’s a bit creepy for me, but I have never walked in his shoes.

Would it be better if he went to the local brothel?

Is it creepy when a man has sex with his wife when she is frail and bald from chemotherapy? Or is it love and he simply does not see her as unattractive (comatose?)?

He obviously loves this woman because sex can be had anywhere. Nobody knows what goes through a person’s mind when the love of their life is dying.

Save the courts for the real criminals.
I could not do what he did, but I could not pass judgment upon the poor man either.


36 posted on 09/14/2008 1:52:27 PM PDT by Bon mots
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Thank goodness for the sanity of the Wisconsin court.


37 posted on 09/14/2008 1:57:50 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Bon mots

Couldn’t have said it better myself. I may joke about it but really, when it comes down to it, it’s weird, (creepy as you say) but I can see his side too I suppose. What is he supposed to do? He could abandon her, get a girlfriend, instead he appears totally devoted.

Given the fact that her own sister doesn’t have a problem (or at least pretends not to have a problem with it), who’s to say? I know for a fact my husband would have deserted me and found himself a girlfriend and been well within the limits of the law.


38 posted on 09/14/2008 2:04:14 PM PDT by ozarkgirl (Sarah Palin: pro-life, pro-guns, pro-family, anti-government corruption!)
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At least he wasn’t screwing around with other women like the husband of another famous comatose woman.


39 posted on 09/14/2008 2:08:10 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: jude24

You beat me to it. In most states it would be considered rape because she is incapable of giving permission.


40 posted on 09/14/2008 2:20:10 PM PDT by JimC214
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