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1 posted on 09/16/2008 7:46:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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2 posted on 09/16/2008 7:47:40 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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Hmmmmm.

They’ve been blaming commodities speculators for excessively high crude prices.

Is this necessarily a bad thing?


3 posted on 09/16/2008 7:49:53 AM PDT by null and void (When you bang your forehead on the ground five times a day, you get brain damage.)
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Goldman Sachs has been consistenly bullish on oil this year, and Lehman has been bearish, at least in their published commentary. I work in finance and have access to the institutional web sites of both firms. Here is the beginning of a report from the Lehman site:

At what cost?
Sep 12, 2008
Beginning in the fall of 2007, oil prices began overshooting beyond the levels predicted by fundamental cost indicators. Despite the recent drop in oil prices and substantial cost inflation, our analysis still indicates deferred prices should be in double digits, suggesting room for further declines in the price of oil.

Lehman’s proprietary traders do not necessarily have positions corresponding to the “house view”. That said, I’d expect the demise of a firm that is bearish on oil to be marginally bullish for oil futures.


4 posted on 09/16/2008 7:53:39 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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The shock waves from the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers reverberated through markets for vegetable oil, soy beans, rubber and industrial metals as confidence in the financial system faltered, global growth prospects dimmed and cash became king.

Cash? Don't they mean worthless fiat paper?

I remember earlier this decade, during the stock market crash, being told how only tangible things had value.

6 posted on 09/16/2008 7:54:47 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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It’s not so much fun when you’re playing with your own money, is it?.............


10 posted on 09/16/2008 8:01:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you're not part of the solution, then you must be part of the government............)
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I’m not savvy in financial affairs, but isn’t it this Commodities market and trading in it’s futures where people have lost their shirt? Sort of like legal gambling? Betting on corn or wheat or soybeans or pork prices?


11 posted on 09/16/2008 8:01:08 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (Lifetime member of the "Christian-Radical-Right-Wing-Conspirators")
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IMO as a consumer (not investor), the “price” of a commodity is useless today.

So what if oil drops to $10 gallon. If I'm still paying $3 a gal for gas, who cares. I know about refining; but my point about the “price” of oil stands.

Base metals can fall to pennies. But I'm still paying a fortune for metal posts and copper.

Food commodities can free fall. I still see bread, meat, chicken, milk, etc at high prices.

Theater for the masses and financial wizards/titans?

I can't buy silver anywhere near the “spot commodity” price. Games; but what can you do?

20 posted on 09/16/2008 8:24:14 AM PDT by roofgoat
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