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This Day In Civil War History September 17th, 1863 Battle of Antietam
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Posted on 09/17/2008 6:08:42 AM PDT by mainepatsfan

GENERAL ROBERT E. LEE'S first invasion of the North culminated with the Battle of Antietam, in Maryland (or Sharpsburg, as the South called it). The battle took place on Wednesday, September 17, 1862, just 18 days after the Confederate victory at Second Manassas, 40 miles to the southeast in Virginia.

Not only was this the first major Civil War engagement on Northern soil, it was also the bloodiest single day battle in American history.

To view the magnitude of the losses, consider that Antietam resulted in nine times as many Americans killed or wounded (23,000 soldiers) as took place on June 6, 1944--D-day, the so-called "longest day" of World War II.* Also consider that more soldiers were killed and wounded at the Battle of Antietam than the deaths of all Americans in the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War, and Spanish-American War combined.

The loss of human life at Antietam shocked both sides doing battle that day. And it nearly resulted in Lee's entire army, with its back to the Potomac River, being cut off from retreat across the Potomac (through Shepherdstown) and being captured by the stronger Union forces.

The battle also became a turning point, an engagement that changed the entire course of the Civil War. Antietam not only halted Lee's bold invasion of the North (see Why Lee Invaded Maryland) but thwarted his efforts to force Lincoln to sue for peace. It also provided Lincoln with the victory he needed to announce the abolition of slavery in the South. And with that proclamation of Emancipation, Lincoln was able to broaden the base of the war and may have prevented England and France from lending support to a country that engaged in human bondage. The battle sealed the fate of the Confederacy.


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To: ReformedBeckite
I’ll have to agree with you on that, except I’d push it back a month or so to the little battles of Fort Donelson, and Fort Henry...

A gentleman named Kendall Gott has written a book called "Where The South Lost The War" taking that very position. Gott's view is that losing Henry and Donelson started a chain of events that opened the Tennessee River and quickly led to the loss of Nashville, Memphis, and the eventual splitting of the confederacy along the Mississippi. I'm not sure I agree completely with his hypothesis but he does make some interesting points.

21 posted on 09/17/2008 6:46:03 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: RayChuang88
You’d think General Lee would have read up on the bloody assault on Breed’s Hill and didn’t repeat that mistake a second time.

Problem is that Lee had in fact gotten away with successful full frontal attacks against well-intrenched federal troops holding high ground at least twice before.

The first was at Gaines Mill during the Seven Days' Battles), and the second was at Chancellorsville (just two months before Gettysburg) when Stuart (taking over for the wounded Jackson) overran Hazel Grove.

Lee thought his men could do it a third time during Pickett's Charge, but he was wrong.

22 posted on 09/17/2008 6:49:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Of all the Civil War battlefields I have visited, Antietam is the creepiest, perhaps because of its relatively small geographical size relative to the large numbers of men who fought and died there.

I take it you have not been to Cold Harbor?

Tom

23 posted on 09/17/2008 6:51:28 AM PDT by fatboy
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To: mainepatsfan
Historian Gary Gilmore argues, convincingly to me, that the critical disaster for the South (not the Confederacy, the South) was the Confederate victory at the Seven Days. If Richmond had fallen and the Confederacy collapsed something like the status quo ante bellum could have been restored. After Lee's victory that became impossible. Plus, the victory at Seven Days guaranteed the South would suffer three more years of ghastly human and material destruction, which would have been prevented by an early end to the war. He argues the Confederacy was doomed, it was just a matter of how long the defeat would take and what the aftermath would be.
24 posted on 09/17/2008 6:53:35 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: fatboy

I have. It’s a very haunted place as well. But for some reason, Antietam just sends shivers up my spine everytime I stop by there. It’s always very quiet, with enough of a breeze blowing (especially at Miller’s cornfield) to make the air seem like its whispering to you.


25 posted on 09/17/2008 6:54:36 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“By injecting an end to slavery into the Union war effort it ended forever the possibility of European intervention on the side of the confederacy. Without that intervention the confederacy was doomed.”

The concept of “sealing fate” is an abstract one, and invites debate about forests and trees on many levels. Certainly, the South needed outside aid to counter the population and industry of the North. However, given these shortcomings, one might reasonably say that the Confederacy’s fate was sealed before the war began. It is hard to believe that the British would have intervened fiercely enough on the behalf of a slave-nation, with or without the Emancipation Proclaimation.


26 posted on 09/17/2008 6:56:06 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Rummyfan

General McClellan was error incarnate. Like Barack Obama holding the delegate lead while losing primary after primary, McClellan also couldn’t quite “close the deal”.


27 posted on 09/17/2008 7:00:11 AM PDT by flowerplough ("If only America could be China for a day," -NYT's Thomas Friedman, in 'Hot, Flat, and Crowded')
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To: MissMagnolia
"Visiting Antietam is always an emotional experience for me."

Me too, Miss Magnolia. My great-grandfather was there with the Union 12th Corps in the Cornfield. Although I have walked the battlefield, and am an Army veteran myself,(Cold War in Europe; pre Viet Nam), I know I have only the vaguest understanding of what that terrible day must have been like. For a while I had a letter he had written to his wife a few days after the battle (I have since donated it to a museum). Describing the march to the battle, and then the battle itself, he wrote:

"To the unitiated the night march would have been impressive in the extreme - the steady solumn tread of ten thousand men, the whispering orders of the officers - the frequent halts and silent advance of one or two to examine the character of the ground ahead - the occasional fire of some miserable straggler and so forth & all tending to make men prepare their minds for something awful upon the break of day. Doubtless many who are now in Eternity had thoughts that night they never entertained before..."

And on The Cornfield itself; "I cannot possibly detail to you now the trials of that day. Suffice it to say that the "iron hail" was so thick and my duties took me to so many different points, nothing but the protecting care of my God can have saved me from injury."

28 posted on 09/17/2008 7:00:37 AM PDT by Reo
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“Problem is that Lee had in fact gotten away with successful full frontal attacks against well-intrenched federal troops holding high ground at least twice before.
The first was at Gaines Mill during the Seven Days’ Battles), and the second was at Chancellorsville (just two months before Gettysburg) when Stuart (taking over for the wounded Jackson) overran Hazel Grove.

Lee thought his men could do it a third time during Pickett’s Charge, but he was wrong.”

It is my understanding that Lee had many victories in absolute numbers, given that the South was always outmanned, but the Union generally prevailed proportionally (i.e. their deaths as a percentage of the whole was less than the South’s). The author I read ascribed to the South’s disproportionate death rate to their cavalier kill or die attitude in charges.


29 posted on 09/17/2008 7:00:40 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Non-Sequitur

You just reminded me about something, I live in the Murfreesboro, area,(Battle of Stones River), It rained really heavy the days before and after the battle, Because of this the Union Army was able to float supplies down some river to help supply the Union Troops. If this had not happen Gen. Rosecran probably would have had to retreat back to Nashville. Ok now I’m going to have to spend the rest of the day finding out the specfic details about that.


30 posted on 09/17/2008 7:01:13 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: MissMagnolia

I know what you mean. Standing in “Bloody Lane” gives me chills. I have to imagine that the terror of final minutes of their lives, caused a little piece of the spirit to remain on that battlefield in some way.

My great-great grandfather lost two fingers at Manassas and was allowed to go home to Strausburg Va to recover. He just missed Antietam but went back to his brigade to serve again at Gettysburg.


31 posted on 09/17/2008 7:02:14 AM PDT by lovesdogs (yw)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Roughly 60 % of the Civil War was fought in Virgina


32 posted on 09/17/2008 7:04:56 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“losing Henry and Donelson started a chain of events that opened the Tennessee River and quickly led to the loss of Nashville, Memphis, and the eventual splitting of the confederacy along the Mississippi. I’m not sure I agree completely with his hypothesis but he does make some interesting points.”

It seems to me that this is missing the obvious. Why credit the battles leading up to the victory at Vicksburg instead of the victory at Vicksburg itself? Plus, it is my understanding that Grant’s victory was far from certain, given that he had to forge through a swamp and lay a prolonged and difficult seige to take the town and split the Confederacy.


33 posted on 09/17/2008 7:05:15 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
The author I read ascribed to the South’s disproportionate death rate to their cavalier kill or die attitude in charges.

Grady McWhiney's Attack and Die: Civil War Military Tactics and the Southern Heritage?

Yeah, McWhiney's famous for his famous "Celtic" and "Cracker Culture" theses. I've got a big problem with his "Celtic" argument since the Federals launched their share of big frontal attacks as well, for instance at Fredericksburg, Kennesaw Mountain, Cold Harbor, and Nashville.

34 posted on 09/17/2008 7:06:30 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: gracesdad
Maybe a little un know fact that Brandy Station was a staging place for both armies.... now that is a creepy place if you have not been there.
35 posted on 09/17/2008 7:06:55 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Now how did you arrive at that figure, considering that big campaigns and battles were fought in Tennessee, Georgia, and Mississippi (comprising a MUCH larger geographical area than Virginia), and a host of smaller ones in Louisiana, Alabama, and Missouri?


36 posted on 09/17/2008 7:09:09 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The battlefield site that always does it to me is Spotsylvania. Walk the path of Hancock’s assault toward the Mule Shoe on a foggy morning and see what that does to you.


37 posted on 09/17/2008 7:11:33 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (America's never won a "war" unless the enemy was named using a proper noun.)
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To: Tublecane
However, given these shortcomings, one might reasonably say that the Confederacy’s fate was sealed before the war began.

I've always believed that the confederacy began to lose the war the moment they fired on Sumter for that reason, there really was no way that they could win.

It is hard to believe that the British would have intervened fiercely enough on the behalf of a slave-nation, with or without the Emancipation Proclaimation.

British intervention was never as imminent as the South liked to think since the Palmerston government was not going to stick its neck out and support the confederacy unless it was certain that the South was going to win. During the summer of 1862, following the confederate victory at Second Manassas, it appears that they were moving towards recognition and the entire cabinet was supposed to take up the issue when they met again in October. Antietam changed that perception that Southern victory was inevitable, and the Emancipation Proclamation made it clear that any future intervention would clearly be supporting slavery.

38 posted on 09/17/2008 7:12:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
My friend who is into the history of the civil war would always quote that to me.

39 posted on 09/17/2008 7:13:41 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

It makes me wonder if Lee was thinking that the Union would protect its Right and Left wings at all costs and disregard the center. The thing about this is eventually the North figured it out and kept their men in the center. You can fool an old dog once or twice, but it’s gets harder to fool him a third time.


40 posted on 09/17/2008 7:14:20 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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