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To: longtermmemmory

If AIG was such a gosh-darned bargain, why didn’t some other private entity make a deal for it? Why did Uncle Sap have to pick up that garbage company?


73 posted on 09/21/2008 6:32:42 AM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: LiveFree99

As I understand it, nobody knows the value of their assets. Not even themselves.


77 posted on 09/21/2008 6:34:45 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Just Words? Elect Obama and it's too late. There are NO do-overs.)
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To: LiveFree99
I am afraid that is my question as well. Although from what I heard on CNBC, AIG was about to go under really quick.

Once again I am not a business tycoon nor do I play one,this is all a bit over my head.

99 posted on 09/21/2008 6:45:54 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: LiveFree99

From a show I saw on Saturday (Journal Editorial Report?) AIG was working on a deal for about $10 Billion a few weeks ago, but thought the government would give them a better deal.


100 posted on 09/21/2008 6:46:29 AM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: LiveFree99

“If AIG was such a gosh-darned bargain, why didn’t some other private entity make a deal for it? “

Because nobody else has the authority to force the cramdown of the synthetics. The fed does and will. Once the fed laid out the cramdown aspect the share holders of AIG are bitching about the termsheet. LOL.


108 posted on 09/21/2008 6:50:08 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida (Unless you are nice and thoughtful you will be ignored. Write in Thomas Sowell.)
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To: LiveFree99

>If AIG was such a gosh-darned bargain, why didn’t some
>other private entity make a deal for it? Why did Uncle
>Sap have to pick up that garbage company?

Because AIG, like Lehman, were very arrogant in thinking they could dictate terms - ie they thought they still had chips on the table. When Uncle Sam let Lehman die, both Merrill and AIG collectively gulped and took the deals that were on the table. In the case of AIG the only player that could come up with the money they needed fast enough was the government.

AIG is not garbage and theoretically if the housing market stabilizes by early 09 due to the stopping of sub-prime loans and the bailout, Uncle Sam stands to make a tidy profit from the breakup of the company. AIG has a value of around 150 billion. We paid 80 billion to own 80% of the company. The loan AIG was given is at 11% interest which is loan shark rates. The exorbitant rate of the loan pretty much forces AIG to sell itself quickly.

Not that we’ll ever see any of the profit since it will probably get plowed back in to the bailout plan.

The bailout plan is basically a place for companies to dump all the garbage loans that they were forced to make by the Dems stupid idea of ‘fairness’. In theory, once you clean the crap out, things return back to normal since the the stuff in everyone’s portfolio is valued properly and all the complex leveraging formulas that these guys are operating on make starts to make sense again.

From the banks point of view, since the government forced them to make these stupid loans, the government should clean up the mess.


449 posted on 09/21/2008 11:31:26 AM PDT by brooklynlou
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