Posted on 09/23/2008 8:49:33 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
The same people who reject cretionism as science will reject Islamic dogma just as well. The ones who can be forced into compliance are the ones who would make good dhimmis.
I don't think it has, at least not for the large majority of Americans.
So, it was not intended to be a “secular republic” as you claim.
If it was not meant to be a secular republic, then it could only be meant to be a religious republic. Which is what Iran is. I don't think that is what the Founding Fathers were aiming for.
Screaming you’ll be burned at the stake if Americans enjoy the freedom of teaching truth to our children is a GREAT strategy on your part...I sincerely hope nothing stops you!
Your dog still won’t hunt.
Here’s an accurate Indian name to consider:
“rotting dog”
Read the Adams quote again.
The founders were depending on people to have internal controls in order to avoid the need for external controls, ie, they needed to be a “moral and religious people” in order to be able to live in liberty.
You’re falling for the leftist “top down” theory of governance. Every behavioral restriction, in your (and the left’s) paradigm, must come from a central authority or government.
Sure, you can “reject Islamic dogma” - right before your head departs your body.
Understand the difference between the response to your “resistance” to the Christian worldview and your “resistance” to the Islamic worldview?
If you want to play in the adults' pool you need to demonstrate you can swim.
The movements that are critical of evolution admit they have no science to offer.
Come back when you have some.
If you want to play in the adults' pool you need to demonstrate you can swim.
The movements that are critical of evolution admit they have no science to offer.
Come back when you have some.
There are plenty of atheists and agnostics in the military who are doing a very good job of protecting this country from militant Islamic dogma.
Understand the difference between the response to your “resistance” to the Christian worldview and your “resistance” to the Islamic worldview?
Of course. And, as an agnostic, I have no issues with us, as a nation, using all of the means at our disposal to resist militant Islam. If there was a strain of militant Christianity that threatened our freedoms (there isn't), I would support taking the same actions.
Do you think I'm defenseless? That could be a potentially fatal mistake.
They were slightly wrong- people can be moral, without being religious. As an anecdotal example, I live in DC and know plenty of non-religious liberals who are moral people.
You’re falling for the leftist “top down” theory of governance. Every behavioral restriction, in your (and the left’s) paradigm, must come from a central authority or government.
No, I'm not. Your view is based on the mistaken assumption that a person cannot be moral unless they are religious.
What paranoia.
Considering how the evos turn on their own and chew them up and spit them out when they don’t tow the hardline evo party line, I suppose the projection is not unexpected.
They just don’t realize that not everybody is as intolerant as them and not going to react like them.
Very revealing......
IOW, there's no avoiding having someone else's religious beliefs imposed on us - except to voluntarily embrace yours?
The atheists are riding the coattails of the morality of Christianity that once determined proper behavior in this country.
The moral decline that we’re seeing in regards to abortion, homosexual activism, promiscuity, euthanasia, etc, show what happens when that Judeo-Christian moral base is eroded.
Sure, for the time being atheists can be moral according to Judeo-Christian standards, but they have no reason to be and if those standards are removed, they will cease that moral behavior in time.
It’s happening now in spite of the fact that some individual atheists still see the benefit to themselves of moral behavior.
I'm not even sure what that means. You're assuming that atheists and agnostics live moral lives because they are somehow trying to copy Christians. That does not make sense- atheists and agnostics live moral lives for their own reasons.
The moral decline that we’re seeing in regards to abortion, homosexual activism, promiscuity, euthanasia, etc, show what happens when that Judeo-Christian moral base is eroded.
Shouldn't the blame for this fall squarely on the shoulders of Christians who do not live up to Christian values? No one is forcing them to give up Judeo-Christian moral values. On the other hand, are you willing to give credit to atheists and agnostics (such as myself) who do not engage in any of these activities?
Sure, for the time being atheists can be moral according to Judeo-Christian standards, but they have no reason to be and if those standards are removed, they will cease that moral behavior in time.
Again, you assume that atheists and agnostics act morally due to some sort of cultural accident. That's not a correct assumption.
It’s happening now in spite of the fact that some individual atheists still see the benefit to themselves of moral behavior.
What evidence do you have that atheists and agnostics in this country are increasingly acting imorally?
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