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They're Launching America's First Carbon Cap-And-Trade Program Today?
American Thinker ^ | September 25, 2008 | Marc Sheppard

Posted on 09/25/2008 2:16:41 AM PDT by Man50D

Did you know that a 10 state coalition is holding our nation's first ever carbon allowance auction at 9:00 AM EDT today? Or that the same states will be imposing a mandatory cap-and-trade program on their electric plants beginning next month? This may surprise those who assumed that June's tabling of the national Lieberman-Warner bill coupled with already runaway energy prices and growing overall economic anxiety signaled a reprieve from this stealth tax and power grab scheme -- at least for the remainder of the year.

Nonetheless, the New York-based Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative launches today, striving to freeze CO2 emissions through 2014 and then gradually reduce them to 10 percent below current levels by 2018. How? By setting steadily declining annual caps on the tonnage of carbon a utility may legally exhaust into the atmosphere and forcing those that cannot comply to "purchase" allowances at auction from those that can. Auction proceeds will then, at least in theory, be invested in low-carbon energy solutions such as solar and wind, which would gradually replace fossil-based generators.

Violators may also opt to pay off a portion of their carbon "debt" by purchasing approved offsets to mitigate their pollution, such as sequestration of carbon through afforestation or landfill methane capture and destruction. These offsets are perhaps the most comical component of carbon mitigation, as calculating each value implies an understanding of the same chaotic climate feedback mechanisms that even the world's leading climate modelers have thus far found elusive.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capandtrade; climatechange; environment; govwatch
Keep in mind -- both Obama and McCain support a national cap-and-trade market, which neither seems to understand any better than he does financial markets.

But even setting aside the flagrant futility and sheer socialism of such mechanisms for the moment, any sane person must ask themselves the obvious: "Now? You can't be serious!"

What a choice. Both candidates are socialists but many try to pretend McCain is somehow a Conservative. Either one will destroy the country with this socialist garbage.
1 posted on 09/25/2008 2:16:42 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

This will help ease the cost of production. Coal prices have doubled since last Sept and the price of the carbon will work its way into the cost of production as well for these customers.

Pretty stupid really.


2 posted on 09/25/2008 2:27:23 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: Man50D

I guess those states will be living in the dark soon then.

Sooner if the markets open Monday, madness ensues for 10 minutes until the trading floor is forced closed. Then markets open again a couple days later, madness ensues, and black Thursday 2008 is born.

I’d like to see how well a “carbon tax” will be recieved then by the people in those states facing 75% unemployment.


3 posted on 09/25/2008 2:36:19 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Man50D

well this is a federalist approach...


4 posted on 09/25/2008 2:47:01 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: Nathan Zachary

it’s great for the rest of the country. we can note how they fail and explain why a national program would be a disaster


5 posted on 09/25/2008 2:48:55 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: Man50D

How can I make som emoney off this stupidity? I can make up fictional non-carbon to sell them I guess...

Man, I want in on this racket.


6 posted on 09/25/2008 2:50:01 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a Congress. --John Adams)
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To: Man50D

Kalifornia is part of this, isn’t it?


7 posted on 09/25/2008 2:58:14 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Terrorist organizations worldwide endorse Obama.)
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To: Man50D; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; TenthAmendmentChampion; ..
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

8 posted on 09/25/2008 3:12:48 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; Ole Okie; ...

Carbon Scam Ping - (POGW) (Cap-And-Scam)

9 posted on 09/25/2008 3:31:19 AM PDT by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Been there, done that.

Ebay Thinks Carbon Credits Are BS

10 posted on 09/25/2008 4:01:08 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: Man50D

Atlas shrugged.


11 posted on 09/25/2008 4:04:04 AM PDT by listenhillary (Community organizing has brought Wall Street to it's knees.That WAS the plan, right?)
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To: Man50D

I wonder what they do if no bidders show up? That would be encouraging.


12 posted on 09/25/2008 4:06:35 AM PDT by listenhillary (Community organizing has brought Wall Street to it's knees.That WAS the plan, right?)
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To: ovrtaxt

I think they’ve figured out a new way to sell tulips now that the subprime bubble went pop.....


13 posted on 09/25/2008 4:11:14 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Man50D

All the mammals on earth are exhaling CO2 constantly, therefore, shouldn’t we be committing 1300 billion to this liberal fairy tale?


14 posted on 09/25/2008 4:25:28 AM PDT by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bomber)
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To: Man50D

This sort of thing is just a prelude to compulsory taxes on “carbon emissions”.
Breathing releases CO2 into the air. Therefore they will tax that too.


15 posted on 09/25/2008 4:42:29 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: cake_crumb

I don’t know about California but New Hampshire is right there with the rest of socialist New England. This REALLY sucks. Between the forest of O’Bama signs up here and the loons supporting ‘Let’s kill all the babies’ Shaheen and a Catholic Bishop still claiming he was the ‘victim’ when he assigned and reassigned known pedophile priests to new parishes the Granite State is fast becoming the ‘K-Y Jelly’ state!


16 posted on 09/25/2008 4:43:13 AM PDT by NHResident
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To: Nathan Zachary

“I guess those states will be living in the dark soon then.”
COLD dark


17 posted on 09/25/2008 9:40:40 AM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

“I guess those states will be living in the dark soon then.”
COLD dark


18 posted on 09/25/2008 9:40:48 AM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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