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House clears $25bn for carmakers
FT ^ | 25 Sep 2008 | Bernard Simon

Posted on 09/25/2008 7:09:49 AM PDT by BGHater

The House of Representatives on Wednesday approved a $25bn package of low-cost loans to help hard-pressed carmakers and their suppliers finance plant modernisation at a time of restricted access to public capital ­markets.

The automotive loans are separate from the proposed $700bn bail-out for the banking sector, which is still being debated in Congress. The House approved the measure 370-58, setting the stage for Senate approval within days.

The industry’s case has been helped by the fact that Michigan and Ohio, the two states most dependent on the car industry, are key swing states in the November 4 presidential election.

Executives of General Motors, Ford Motor and Chrysler and their suppliers have lobbied heavily for the loans. Both presidential ­candidates, John McCain and Barack Obama, have expressed support.

Shelly Lombard, analyst at Gimme Credit, a corporate bond research company, told clients this week that “blue collar workers are more sympathetic victims than ‘rich’ investment bankers. So it’s easier to defend loans designed to save close to 100,000 jobs in the shrinking US manufacturing industry.”

The go-ahead for the car industry loans has been written into a stop-gap spending bill, known as a continuing resolution, which must be passed to keep the federal government running beyond the end of the fiscal year on September 30. Congress and the White House have yet to agree on details of the fiscal 2009 budget.

The loans were originally authorised in an energy bill passed last December to finance the retooling of plants for more fuel-efficient vehicles, especially hybrid and electric cars. But they have become a crucial prop for Detroit carmakers.

The continuing resolution provides funding for $7.5bn, which is the estimated subsidy on the loans – in other words, the cost to the government of providing them at well below market rates.

The loans will not take effect until the energy department has written detailed regulations dealing with, among other issues, which investments will qualify and conditions for repayment. Congress has directed the department to begin writing the regulations quickly and will provide any extra staff required to do so. One lobbyist said he hoped the regulations would be completed by early 2009.

All carmakers and suppliers with operations in the US are theoretically eligible. However, the energy bill restricts benefits to plants that have been in operation for at least 20 years, thereby excluding most foreign carmakers.

A Toyota spokesman said his company was agnostic on whether it derived any benefits. It has kept a low profile in the debate on the loans.

The Detroit-based car­makers have insisted that the loans, known as the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Incentive Programme, are not a bail-out because they must be repaid.

But critics have questioned the wisdom of supporting the motor industry with taxpayers’ money, especially in the wake of the huge amounts being provided to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG and Wall Street investment banks.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: autos; bailout; carmakers; congress; house; transportation
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'The House approved the measure 370-58'
1 posted on 09/25/2008 7:09:50 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Airlines are next,then homebuilders,then the meat market guy down the block.


2 posted on 09/25/2008 7:11:57 AM PDT by quack (Democracy For Sale: $700 Billion Or Best Offer)
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To: BGHater

I’m not approving this. Get out of my purse!


3 posted on 09/25/2008 7:14:13 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: BGHater

Guy on CNN last night said GM has exhausted its credit line and cannot get more in this crisis.

It’s either lend it to them or watch them close plants...abruptly.


4 posted on 09/25/2008 7:14:38 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: quack

are salaries capped?


5 posted on 09/25/2008 7:14:52 AM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: BGHater
Free money!!!!!

SNORT.

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

Alexis de Tocqueville

We have met the enemy and he is us.

Walt Kelly

6 posted on 09/25/2008 7:15:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: quack

Airlines are next,then homebuilders,then the meat market guy down the block.

Yep...

7 posted on 09/25/2008 7:15:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (I'm gonna use "Sarah!" from NOW ON since Hillary uses "Hillary!"......)
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To: BGHater

Has GM or Ford tried these people?...........

8 posted on 09/25/2008 7:17:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (I'm gonna use "Sarah!" from NOW ON since Hillary uses "Hillary!"......)
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To: Petronski
It’s either lend it to them or watch them close plants...abruptly.

That sounds like extortion to me.

9 posted on 09/25/2008 7:18:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: CindyDawg

Perhaps The Big 3 should do like regular people do, for once.......

10 posted on 09/25/2008 7:19:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (I'm gonna use "Sarah!" from NOW ON since Hillary uses "Hillary!"......)
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To: BGHater
Somebody needs to start talking about this...

The same thing which has happened to mortgage lending entities has happened to the car business as well. Every sort of bank and the car loan arms of the manufacturers have all been being forced to lend to people who would have never gotten car loans 30 years ago and when these cars all get trashed, repo-ed, and then sold at auctions for 4K - 10K losses, that gets tacked onto the price of every other car they sell and THAT is why none of us can afford new cars any more. I would likely come as a hell of a shock to a lot of younger people to learn that middle class people used to buy new cars every three years in the 1950s.

11 posted on 09/25/2008 7:20:37 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: mewzilla

12 posted on 09/25/2008 7:21:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (I'm gonna use "Sarah!" from NOW ON since Hillary uses "Hillary!"......)
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To: BGHater

What, no sprinkler system upgrades for golf courses? :-)


13 posted on 09/25/2008 7:22:05 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: mewzilla
These guys remind me of someone writing a check for fines for “hot checks” ! Here the American tax payers are having to bail Congress out for a 700 Billion dollar of bad decisions and they still are trying to give money away. They haven't learned anything.
14 posted on 09/25/2008 7:23:08 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Petronski

Maybe some abrupt closings will encourage the perps to STOP DOING STUPID STUFF.


15 posted on 09/25/2008 7:23:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: BGHater

I’ll take a billion please.


16 posted on 09/25/2008 7:24:47 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Petronski

Considering the crap GM makes, I say close it down. I warned them that they’ve sold me a lemon for the last time... and it’s still sitting out back at the tree line. It’s been there for 8 years now, bought it brand new and got one year out of it. It’s a reminder to never, ever buy GM again.


17 posted on 09/25/2008 7:25:44 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: BGHater

Man, F#ck this!

My dad works for an auto plant, and as much as I love my parents, absolutely not a dime of my taxes should go to prop up these companies.


18 posted on 09/25/2008 7:26:29 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Stand Up For Chuck 2008!)
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To: BGHater

I just used my exisiting home equity line to pull out a fairly large amount of cash. I don’t need it for anything. It will go into a bank CD and bonds I am acquainted with.

I’ll use the home equity now. If the stuff hits the fan, I’ll just tell the bank I’m not paying. Get in line. Call Barney Frank if you have a problem with it.


19 posted on 09/25/2008 7:27:51 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Nathan Zachary
I warned them that they’ve sold me a lemon for the last time... and it’s still sitting out back at the tree line. It’s been there for 8 years now, bought it brand new and got one year out of it. It’s a reminder to never, ever buy GM again.

I smell a bs statement.

20 posted on 09/25/2008 7:28:41 AM PDT by am452 (Paulson is the Andrew Lesko of Wall Street)
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