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Fight Night! -- Scoring Obama-McCain, round by round. [Excellent Summary]
Daily Standard ^ | September 26, 2008 | Jonathan V. Last

Posted on 09/26/2008 11:46:08 PM PDT by Zakeet

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To: EBH

The McCain camp needs to point out that Pakistan is a NUCLEAR POWER.


41 posted on 09/27/2008 3:58:21 AM PDT by gotribe (The right pick!)
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To: Ancient Drive

Yes, that was a weird moment.


42 posted on 09/27/2008 4:01:01 AM PDT by Alia
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To: fantom
I used to wear my bracelet all the time; but people would ask about it, and I'd start crying. So I now wear mine on very poignant days; and because I can feel the ethereal shoulders of all those who understand why I wear that bracelet, all around me. And, when the tears come, I feel like I'm among family; not strangers.

I wore an MIA bracelet through my junior high years. It wasn't the same; but I did care nonetheless. And, my soldier made it home, alive.

John McCain stood out and in my lights many years ago due his determination to get our soldiers home and finding our MIAs.

I'm fairly sure Obama feels that mother's pain (who gave him the bracelet); but I don't think Obama groks it all at anything remotely resembling an "intrinsic" level. John McCain does.

John McCain has zero degrees of separation regarding our soldiers. With Obama, it's like 180 degrees of separation, and why the left thinks being a "community organizer" is something equivalent to being a "soldier". These are not the same, at all, whatsoever.

43 posted on 09/27/2008 4:20:10 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Zakeet

“I’ve got a bracelet, too!” mommy, mommy no fair!

Freaking wimp!


44 posted on 09/27/2008 4:24:09 AM PDT by ladiesview61
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To: Zakeet

bttt


45 posted on 09/27/2008 4:26:05 AM PDT by Nascar Dad (Nobama!)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems
McCain should have called Obama by his first name just to remind everyone. No one calls him Barack, it's always 0bama or Senator 0bama
46 posted on 09/27/2008 4:29:56 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Zakeet
If I might add to Mr. Last's subject items...

Senator McCain said a thing last night, very quietly, which kind of got buried; but to me was extremely vital.

It has to do with our veterans. He said he knows how much and the kind of care our active and veterans are going to need.

He's right. And this is a huge point. On the ground, the word is, about the sheer numbers of military folks (and their families) who are going to be needing various kinds of care. From traumatic brain injuries, PTSD, missing limbs, etc.

This is not at all a small item to think about.

We already know the Dems are focused on categorizing all military as PTSD and using this to rail against the "evil" U.S. They'll post non-stop pictures of soldiers physically maimed through "Bush's War".

All this means is, they'll use more funds to promote their politics, than to actually go to where care "funds" needs to go.

At current, HIV/AIDS and Breast Cancer get HUGE funds in contrast to say, TBI (traumatic brain injury); but the numbers of those with TBI outstrips by huge numbers those with HIV/Aids and breast cancer.

Obama and his coalition will, by their very nature and agenda, be reliably counted on to make a mess of getting the right kind of help to our soldiers.

How do I know this. I met far too many Vietnam vets in the San Francisco Bay Area who WOULDN'T go get help and because they ran into too many "anti-war" peeps at the places they were supposed to go get help. So, these guys didn't go for help. They needed help, and most of what they got was the classic, sniping "anti-war" bs from many who got JOBS working at Vet facilities.

It screwed them up, even more.

It makes the bile rise in my throat to even think of that happening, again.

47 posted on 09/27/2008 4:37:22 AM PDT by Alia
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To: AndyMeyers

Regarding Fannie / Freddie —

Here’s the dirty secret why McCain isn’t putting the finger on the right names: some republicans nibbled on the table scraps. That’s one reason why Fannie/Freddie donated to republicans, a few scraps put a muzzle on the GOP leadership. That’s why even the crystal clean republican legislators are muzzled.


48 posted on 09/27/2008 4:40:37 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Fannie + Freddie = Democrat Cronies [Dodd and Obama -- the LegisLOOTers])
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To: counterpunch
the last thing anyone wants to hear is how the guy who wants to be President is going to increase spending in Washington.

Unless you are a part of the 50 million demographic that can vote, but don't pay income tax.

49 posted on 09/27/2008 4:46:40 AM PDT by listenhillary (Community organizing has brought Wall Street to it's knees.That WAS the plan, right?)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems
McCain needed to go after the Dems on Fannie Mae and hammer it home that they blocked legislation a few years ago to rein this crap on Wall St.
I noticed right off that McCain decided to make Obama is sole target and leave the dems alone.

I believe this is a blunder that, if continued, will cost him the election.

50 posted on 09/27/2008 4:46:43 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Harry Wurzbach
McCain could’ve scored a knockout by tying the current bailout issue to the Dems’ love of Fannie/Freddie and push of mortgages to people with bad or no credit, along with Obama’s fundraising from those companies.
He's got another chance in the next debate. We should all email the McCain campaign and BEG them to start using this against the dems and their OMessiah.
51 posted on 09/27/2008 4:49:26 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems

When he could get the first name right, Jim, er, Tom, er John


52 posted on 09/27/2008 4:57:47 AM PDT by SouthWall (I'm concerned about McCain. I'm scared of Obama. 6/4/08)
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To: jrooney

“I have a bracelet too. It is from...uh...er...here...wait...let me look...it is from Mad e China...ah made in china?...uh...here...um...well it’s a braclet and it is not anything like Bush’s”.


53 posted on 09/27/2008 4:58:58 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: Zakeet

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54 posted on 09/27/2008 5:01:33 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude () ......Pelosi + Reid = $ 4.00 per gallon......()
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Let the DOJ investigate the FM/FM crooks, IMO the Rats have a lot to hide, the Reps not so much!


55 posted on 09/27/2008 5:03:36 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Zakeet

I disagree with your scoring on Round 3. Neither man has any clue as to how to pay for the bailout and it showed. Obama didn’t have any answers and McCain’s suggestions were so ridiculous as to make him appear foolish. Freeze everything except defense, veterans affairs, and entitlements won’t work - how do you freeze debt payments when you’re adding an additional trillion dollars to it? And I seem to remember reading somewhere that Congress appropriates spending, not the president. I really thought this was McCain’s weakest moment in the debate.


56 posted on 09/27/2008 5:04:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Alia
Gotta add another point....

John McCain spoke about speaking about the war in ways which were at best temperate, lest we give info, if not inspiration, away to America's enemies.

In this regard, John McCain was chastizing Obama, and Senator McCain was ABSOLUTELY right to do so: "Loose Lips Sink Ships".

Not long after this, Senator Obama went on to talk about America not being safe, and he went on to list the areas, very specifically, which were wide open to potential terrorist attack; instead of speaking in noblesse generalities.

I heard him; and my mouth instantly went into "Hi, I'm So. California's electrical grid.. we're waiting on you AQ, we are like so vulnerable, hit us please".

Egads. Obama just really doesn't get national security. He either doesn't get it, or thinks he's back in the 'hood speaking to the people in Mr. Roger's neighborhood. blech.

57 posted on 09/27/2008 5:07:25 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Zakeet

O’Bama has his Flag Pin on his lapel, don’t think McCain had one.

McCain missed several golden opportunities to really stuff O’Bama.

Toward the end of the debate O’Bama mentioned missile defense.
There are plenty of quotes of O’Bama saying he would cut ‘Starwars’ spending, new missile and warhead technology spending.
We must stay in the the defense race.
He can’t wish it away. Particularly w/ Putin.

Since our ‘wonderful detente’ w/ Russia they have built at least 2 new ballistic missiles.
The Topol M ground launched several yrs. ago and a new sub launched announced a few days ago.

I thought McCain’s reasoning was superior to O’Bama’s. However McCain needs to have SPECIFIC facts and solutions at hand.
That is where O’Bama was better, IMHO.

On some of the questions McCain used generalities, O’Bama said, ‘One, I’d do...,Two, I’d do..., and so on.


58 posted on 09/27/2008 5:18:08 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Coldwater Creek
The ad was out just a few minutes after the debate ended.

Actually the ad came out while they were still debating. I was pointed to it by the live thread well before Ø finished his ahs and uhs.

59 posted on 09/27/2008 5:31:41 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Thanks Ghosty! ;)


60 posted on 09/27/2008 6:04:01 AM PDT by BossLady ("Dennis K. Eads" ---The name on the POW Bracelet I wore when I was 7 years old)
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