I've got a bracelet, too ...
I've got a bracelet, too ...
I scored it 5-3 for McCain. It was pretty civil until Obama started smirking and kept saying not true when McCain was on the offensive. McCain needed to go after the Dems on Fannie Mae and hammer it home that they blocked legislation a few years ago to rein this crap on Wall St.
I thought it was disrespectful of Obama to keep calling McCain by his first name.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
!!!!!!!!BAM!!!!!!!!!!!
It had the feel of Cheney violating Edwards in every way possible in a debate back in the VP debate of ‘04. Of course, nothing can really ever match that bloodletting.
But McCain definitely hit Obama hard. I think Obama was deft and for those who care about appearances more than substance, he appeared to be holding his own. But when thinking about what was said, McCain definitely won. McCain could’ve scored a knockout by tying the current bailout issue to the Dems’ love of Fannie/Freddie and push of mortgages to people with bad or no credit, along with Obama’s fundraising from those companies.
What really struck me about the economic debate was how even in the midst of “the worst economy since the Great Depression” where 0bama and Bush are scheming together to give away $700 billion tax dollars to Wall Street, that 0bama can only talk about how much more money he wants to spend. How much more out of touch can a guy be?
I think 0bama detonated a timebomb on himself and he may not even know it yet.
For a week Americans have been hearing the answer to “so how much is this going to cost us” and the last thing anyone wants to hear is how the guy who wants to be President is going to increase spending in Washington.
McCain could have done more to exploit this during the debate, though I’m sure the McCain campaign will more than make up for it in the coming weeks.
Good summary.
I have a bracelet too lol
If I hear any more whining about “main street” I’m going to scream. “Main street” took out these crappy loans that got us into this mess. “Main street” is just a bad as the crooked lenders and corrupt politicians who engaged in this crap.
I'll read through this in a little while (and this post is bookmarking it) since I didn't see it all.
What I did see was that McCain just made more sense overall and I thought Obama came across as arrogant, humorless and phony.
Then again, I admit that I am a bit biased. ;-)
You are right. McCain won by far but it didn’t seem like he did that well. Obama was really a windbag, lot of generalities, lots of weaseling. No specifics to speak of. But in his windbaggedness he makes himself appear smarter and more attuned than he is. He even stole a couple of ideas from McCain and said “John is right” at least 6 times. That’s gonna come back as a commercial for McCain.
But it was generally an unexciting debate and I found myself struggling to stay awake watching it.
and he’s wearing a lapel flag...he must be wearing his “red states” suit.
I only saw the closing remarks and watched the bows. From BO’s body language as he left the stage, one could see he thought he had been bested.
Of course, I turned the TV off after that because that ridiculous “spin alley” invention of the msm is why no one should pay attention to these debates. They are an expensive show for the msm to make themselves feel relevant.
“I’ve got a bracelet, too!” mommy, mommy no fair!
Freaking wimp!
bttt
Senator McCain said a thing last night, very quietly, which kind of got buried; but to me was extremely vital.
It has to do with our veterans. He said he knows how much and the kind of care our active and veterans are going to need.
He's right. And this is a huge point. On the ground, the word is, about the sheer numbers of military folks (and their families) who are going to be needing various kinds of care. From traumatic brain injuries, PTSD, missing limbs, etc.
This is not at all a small item to think about.
We already know the Dems are focused on categorizing all military as PTSD and using this to rail against the "evil" U.S. They'll post non-stop pictures of soldiers physically maimed through "Bush's War".
All this means is, they'll use more funds to promote their politics, than to actually go to where care "funds" needs to go.
At current, HIV/AIDS and Breast Cancer get HUGE funds in contrast to say, TBI (traumatic brain injury); but the numbers of those with TBI outstrips by huge numbers those with HIV/Aids and breast cancer.
Obama and his coalition will, by their very nature and agenda, be reliably counted on to make a mess of getting the right kind of help to our soldiers.
How do I know this. I met far too many Vietnam vets in the San Francisco Bay Area who WOULDN'T go get help and because they ran into too many "anti-war" peeps at the places they were supposed to go get help. So, these guys didn't go for help. They needed help, and most of what they got was the classic, sniping "anti-war" bs from many who got JOBS working at Vet facilities.
It screwed them up, even more.
It makes the bile rise in my throat to even think of that happening, again.
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I disagree with your scoring on Round 3. Neither man has any clue as to how to pay for the bailout and it showed. Obama didn’t have any answers and McCain’s suggestions were so ridiculous as to make him appear foolish. Freeze everything except defense, veterans affairs, and entitlements won’t work - how do you freeze debt payments when you’re adding an additional trillion dollars to it? And I seem to remember reading somewhere that Congress appropriates spending, not the president. I really thought this was McCain’s weakest moment in the debate.