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The case for 'green' bullets (barf alert)
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 01 oct 08 | Jonathan N. Pauli and Steven W. Buskirk

Posted on 10/01/2008 4:20:04 AM PDT by rellimpank

Rome wasn’t built in a day; it didn’t it collapse that suddenly, either.

War, famine, and disease all played their roles, but poisoning of the governing elite also contributed. Unsuspecting Romans were killed not by hemlock or cyanide, but by chronic exposure to elemental lead. This heavy metal, used for its malleability and resistance to corrosion, is a toxin, not beneficial in any amount. Lead poisons by mimicking other biologically important metals, binding to enzymes and interfering with key body functions. A single high dose of lead can be lethal; sub-lethal quantities affect neurological, gastrointestinal and renal functioning.

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---here we go again--
1 posted on 10/01/2008 4:20:05 AM PDT by rellimpank
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“A single high dose of lead can be lethal...”

Yeah, as a lot of Taliban and al Qaeda found out.


2 posted on 10/01/2008 4:25:40 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: rellimpank
You mean the one in the middle?


3 posted on 10/01/2008 4:39:18 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: rellimpank

I got as far as the date “200 B.C.E.”

Limp-appendage-revisionist-egghead Moron!

There, I feel better.


4 posted on 10/01/2008 4:40:00 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: rellimpank

I’m surprised the Army hasn’t gone for this all out. They’re total slaves to the EPA and the whims of environmentalist nutjobs.


5 posted on 10/01/2008 4:42:37 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (My freq'n head hertz...)
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To: 230FMJ

> I got as far as the date “200 B.C.E.”
> Limp-appendage-revisionist-egghead Moron!
> There, I feel better.

Please don’t use B.C.E.
The left loves it when people use B.C.E.
The commies are trying to purge B.C. and A.D. from the world.


6 posted on 10/01/2008 4:45:38 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: rellimpank

“Earlier this year, in North Dakota, ground venison was cleared from the freezers of soup kitchens after the discovery of lead contamination in the majority of the samples tested. Additionally, shooters using smaller animals - rabbits, coyotes and prairie dogs - for target practice deposit lead in carcasses, where it readily enters wildlife food chains. Because such target animals are not removed from the field for their meat or fur, millions of carcasses containing lead are available to scavenging birds and mammals each year.”

Wonderful. sarc/ We piss and moan about lead in products from China, but when someone points out the above, we consider them “eco-nuts.”


7 posted on 10/01/2008 4:46:38 AM PDT by chessplayer
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—and it is a bunch of rot, part of the ongoing so-called “green” movement, fueled by the fact that with improved detection techniques and the proliferation of chem labs , caused by the EPA, we can now find anything in everything and everything in anything, down to parts per billion, and use that to promote any given left-wing political agenda—


8 posted on 10/01/2008 5:04:51 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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What the eco-twits fail to tell everyone is the fact that there are far fewer ducks now than there were when everyone was using lead shot and it was never proved that it was being ingested by ducks or was ever a problem.

So what really happened to all the ducks?

In the early 70’s - 80’s the eco-twits and animal rights nutballs destroyed the fur market and now the raccoons, opossums, and skunks eat all the duck eggs and the eggs of all the ground nesting birds.

In the northern states the pheasants and other game birds are down because all the gravel roads are being paved.

In the coldest time of winter the gravel roads are the only place that birds can get grit and they will die without it.

The eco-twits caused the problem, not lead shot!

9 posted on 10/01/2008 5:35:01 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
--exactly--

--also, IIRC, that claim of lead in the venison in ND was disproven, too---

10 posted on 10/01/2008 5:43:38 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rellimpank

I’d like to give the authors a case of renal failure.


11 posted on 10/01/2008 5:52:17 AM PDT by x1stcav (Anyone for a little armed rebellion?)
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To: rellimpank
.but poisoning of the governing elite also contributed.

Assuming that's a bad thing. Thinning the elite may allow of advancement of talented commoners and provincials

12 posted on 10/01/2008 5:55:25 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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In the coldest time of winter the gravel roads are the only place that birds can get grit and they will die without it.

What did the birds do before the gravel roads were there?

13 posted on 10/01/2008 5:57:32 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (The Global Warming Heretic -- http://AGW-Heretic.blogspot.com)
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that claim of lead in the venison in ND was disproven, too---

I believe they found like 1% was slightly tainted, AFTER they threw it all out, which destroyed a valuable asset used by those food providers...

they [the nazis that were sqwakin about lead] shoulda been required to replace the meat with prime rib IMO...

14 posted on 10/01/2008 5:57:33 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Beagle8U

“In the coldest time of winter the gravel roads are the only place that birds can get grit and they will die without it.

The eco-twits caused the problem, not lead shot!”

The eco-twits are causing gravel roads to be paved? I would have thought they would be against paving anything.


15 posted on 10/01/2008 6:02:13 AM PDT by chessplayer
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This is just a ploy to further reduce hunting;it has nothing to do with concern for poisoning.The anti-hunting crowd wants the public to believe game meat isn’t safe to eat and therefore hunting should be banned.


16 posted on 10/01/2008 6:15:57 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: P8riot

Great idea! I’ll paint my .308 rounds green. That way the deer won’t see them coming.


17 posted on 10/01/2008 6:18:16 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative; Beagle8U

Well, since the Ring-necked pheasant was only introduced into the USA in 1857, I suspect that most of the gravel roads were already here.


18 posted on 10/01/2008 6:25:13 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Abdul, I've got 4 hours of Metallica and a gallon of bleach. How long can you last?")
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To: rellimpank
Unsuspecting Romans were killed not by hemlock or cyanide, but by chronic exposure to elemental lead.

The worst of it did not involve elemental lead. The Romans treated sour wines with "Sugar of Lead", Basic Lead Carbonate, and DRANK it. They did use lead for water meters.

One "Green Bullet" idea is tungsten-filled nylon molded bullets. The mixture provides the same density as a lead bullet. However, Tungsten is a hard refractory metal, and I shrink from putting it down my barrells. The bright side, I suppose, is the worst that could happen is if I kept shooting a 9 mm, it would evolve into a .40, and finally be promoted to a .45! Haha.

Picatinny Arsenal does not think they are a bad idea, so maybe they are OK. I'll wait to hear a lot more, though.

19 posted on 10/01/2008 6:27:06 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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“The eco-twits are causing gravel roads to be paved? I would have thought they would be against paving anything.”

The eco-twits moved into the burbs and demand that all the gravel roads get paved right along with the rest of former city dwellers. They don't understand what it is doing to all the birds, or they just don't care.

They do nothing good for wildlife and never will.

20 posted on 10/01/2008 6:38:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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