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Catholic Magazine Calls For Defeat And Removal Of Prime Minister Harper (Canada)
LifeSiteNews ^ | 10/2/08 | LifeSiteNews

Posted on 10/02/2008 4:29:08 PM PDT by wagglebee

TORONTO, October 2, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper's disturbing statements to the media that he will undemocratically not permit anyone to reopen the debate on abortion are a stark betrayal of conservative principles and should prompt his electoral defeat in Calgary Southwest in the coming federal election, says the editor of Canada's national Catholic magazine of news, analysis and opinion. In addition, Father Alphonse de Valk, editor of Catholic Insight magazine, is calling for the removal of Harper as Conservative party leader.

"For Mr. Harper to state that he would not personally support a law limiting abortion is one thing," said de Valk. "But to go so far as to strong arm his own MPs from supporting the right to life and even, as his spokesperson suggested, whip his cabinet on the matter, is unconscionable."

De Valk noted Harper's latest declarations follow a bevy of other statements and actions during his prime ministerial tenure that have betrayed conservative and democratic principles. Earlier, Harper undermined Bill C-484, the Unborn Victims of Crime Act, which polls demonstrated is supported by a majority of Canadians. He also squandered the parliamentary vote on so-called same-sex marriage, has failed to rein in human rights commissions run amok and has not taken steps to overturn the naming of Henry Morgentaler to the Order of Canada, he said.

It is a falsity to suggest most Canadians support the current state of affairs wherein abortions can be committed right up to the moment of birth, said de Valk, adding that polls show most Canadians want restrictions on it. This is demonstrated, for example, by a 2006 Environics Research Group survey that revealed 64 per cent of Canadians support laws to protect human life before birth.

"Mr. Harper's position should reflect the views of Canadians," said de Valk. "That he will not act conservatively and democratically on a crucial life and death matter disqualifies him from serving as leader of a conservative party. We also encourage the voters of Calgary Southwest to defeat him in the election."


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; moralabsolutes; prolife; stephenharper
"For Mr. Harper to state that he would not personally support a law limiting abortion is one thing," said de Valk. "But to go so far as to strong arm his own MPs from supporting the right to life and even, as his spokesperson suggested, whip his cabinet on the matter, is unconscionable."

It is an insult to democracy.

1 posted on 10/02/2008 4:29:08 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 10/02/2008 4:30:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 10/02/2008 4:30:43 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Don’t get caught up on the tactics; the fact is he is an opponent of life and that itself needs to be addressed.


4 posted on 10/02/2008 4:30:57 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: GMMAC; fanfan

Canada Ping


5 posted on 10/02/2008 4:31:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

and the liberals are better?


6 posted on 10/02/2008 4:34:11 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is snore-y and stinky)
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To: mbraynard
You can read more here:

Prime Minister Harper: Not Now, Not Ever Will Conservative Government Protect Unborn Children


7 posted on 10/02/2008 4:34:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ari-freedom

Of course not, but a REAL conservative Prime Minister would be better.


8 posted on 10/02/2008 4:35:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ari-freedom

Excellent point.


9 posted on 10/02/2008 4:39:26 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: wagglebee

but this is canada


10 posted on 10/02/2008 4:41:18 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is snore-y and stinky)
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Yeah, because the Liberals would protect the unborn./sarc


11 posted on 10/02/2008 4:41:44 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: ari-freedom; GMMAC; fanfan

There ARE real conservatives in Canada.


12 posted on 10/02/2008 4:43:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I know.
I am one.

But not voting for Harper won’t solve anything.


13 posted on 10/02/2008 4:44:59 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: fanfan
But not voting for Harper won’t solve anything.

I assume that the Canadian parliament works essentially the same as Great Britain's. Are most of the other Conservative MPs pro-life? If so, could pressure be brought to either remove Harper or force Harper to allow debate?

14 posted on 10/02/2008 4:48:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

There will be no pressure to remove him. He is the best thing to happen to Canada, and the Conservative party in a long time.

Could we force Harper to allow a debate on it?

Yes, if he gets a majority.


15 posted on 10/02/2008 4:55:08 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: fanfan
Could we force Harper to allow a debate on it?
Yes, if he gets a majority.

Then that should happen, to deny debate is an affront to democracy.

16 posted on 10/02/2008 4:58:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I fail to see the logic in defeating someone who will just leave abortion as it is and allow people who still want to legalize pot, raise taxes, and who knows what else.

You’ve got to evaluate the whole package, relative to the alternatives. Harper isn’t perfect but he is way ahead of the others.


17 posted on 10/02/2008 5:18:09 PM PDT by Grig
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To: wagglebee
Then that should happen, to deny debate is an affront to democracy.

And over such an important subject.

But if we move too fast, we will lose any chance at all. I don't want to lose that chance, and Stephen Harper is the best hope we have.

Now, if Sarah Palin wanted to run here, I would drop Steve in a 'mothers second'. :-)

18 posted on 10/02/2008 5:23:49 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Grig

Hi Grig.

Are you working the election this time?


19 posted on 10/02/2008 5:25:36 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: Grig

My question is whether there are other Conservatives who would be preferable to Harper.


20 posted on 10/02/2008 5:28:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ari-freedom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQxpexX0uf4


21 posted on 10/02/2008 5:32:27 PM PDT by hout8475
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To: wagglebee

I didn’t know there were too many Catholics left in Canada. I mean where was the outrage when they passed homo marriage.


23 posted on 10/02/2008 5:37:59 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: ari-freedom

“and the liberals are better?”

Too bad we’re not asking that question in the US.


24 posted on 10/02/2008 5:42:26 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: wagglebee

To Catholic Canadians:

In the Canadian elections, which is likely to help elect more Conservatives to Parliament - electing Harper or defeating him?

If more Conservatives than Liberals get elected, will pro-life forces be strengthened or made worse.

I think Catholics must realize that Conservatives are their better friends.

Friends build alliances with each other when and how they can, or they destroyn them on single issues.

Harper has a good chance of carrying more Conservatives into government with him.

If I were a Canadian Catholic, I’d think that would be a good thing.


25 posted on 10/02/2008 5:45:56 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: wagglebee; Grig
If I may?

My question is whether there are other Conservatives who would be preferable to Harper.

Preferable is one thought.

Possible is another, and if I may say, a more important one.

We have to work with what is possible, and real.

Stephen Harper is the best leader we have had in Canada in my life time, but still, 3 years later, some of the electorate continues to be convinced that Stephen Harper is scary. All those conservative views, don'cha know.

I look forward to the day that abortion is put to a national referendum. Given that chance, I know most Canadians would outlaw Partial Birth Abortions, once they really understood what it was.

Anyway, we have to do what we can, with what we have.

26 posted on 10/02/2008 6:04:12 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: wagglebee

None that can become PM in this election. It’s either a mostly conservative Harper or one of the socialist anti-americans who lead the other parties.


27 posted on 10/02/2008 8:48:18 PM PDT by Grig
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To: fanfan

No, don’t really have time to volunteer. I was unemployed when Walter Robinson was running here and it was great working with him. I so wish he won. A lawn sign is about all I’m up for this time.


28 posted on 10/02/2008 8:53:08 PM PDT by Grig
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To: RandytheAstonishing

Don’t put words in my mouth. The fact is that there is no viable option for electing a PM that will be pro-life. As much as you might hate his position on it, it will either be him or Dion or Layton. If you want to tell me to not vote for Harper, then have the guts to tell me who you think I should vote for instead.


29 posted on 10/02/2008 8:56:27 PM PDT by Grig
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To: wagglebee
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30 posted on 10/03/2008 1:35:34 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee

there are real conservatives here in NY too but like Canada we also have a lot of socialists and first priority is making sure they don’t win.


31 posted on 10/03/2008 3:06:00 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is snore-y and stinky)
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To: RandytheAstonishing

well you solve the problem by fielding a better candidate and not waiting a few days before an election


32 posted on 10/03/2008 3:08:12 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is snore-y and stinky)
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To: Grig

it’s so easy to always say NO to everything than offer real alternatives


33 posted on 10/03/2008 3:10:01 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is snore-y and stinky)
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To: RandytheAstonishing
I’d rather live in a mud hut, wear rags, and scratch in the dirt for a living while my family died young from disease/labor than to tolerate another murder of a baby in its mothers womb. So I guess my priorities are different from yours.

Yeah - bullsh*t rhetoric above all else, evidently.

Be honest - you have absolutely zero intention of living in simple, let alone primitive, circumstances.

34 posted on 10/03/2008 7:06:37 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: wagglebee

I can understand that there will be some differences between Canadian and U.S. conservatism, but three subjects I do not compromise on are defense, abortion and the right to keep and bear arms. I don’t know how Harper is on the first and third subjects but I was shocked that he seems to be pro-abortion.


35 posted on 10/03/2008 3:49:04 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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